Find open type fractions or text that is using fractions as a single character

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Feb 18, 2022 Feb 18, 2022

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I have a word file with 1/4 - 1/2 etc. but some say 1/6.

When I import this to InDesign the 1/4 and 1/2 are fine as the glyph exists in that font.

But the 1/6 is missing - and it's quite difficult to find all of them.

 

There may be more.

How can I find these characters for all possibilities in either Word or InDesign?

 

Any ideas?

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A simple Find/Change (Text tab) should find them if you are looking for a specific fraction. On the GREP tab \d+\/\d+ should find any combination of digits separated by a slash.

Either one is going to find already formatted text as well as unformatted and some extraneous matches like dates if they exist, and I can't think of a way off the top of my head to change the formatting in one go.

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You can limit the hits to just text to which Opentype Fractions has been applied to remove false positives like dates, but thast still won't make a formatting change automatically. To do that you need to work in two steps, find numerators and make them numerators, then find denominators and change them. The though that something would be incorrectly changed is still so scary to me that I would still run any query one hit at a time rather than clicking Change All.

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Sorry for being unclear.

 

The fractions are actual fractions in the word file like 

But that glyph does not exist in InDesign - so it doesn't show anything - it's coming out blank.

I'd like to be able to find all these either in Word or InDesign.

 

Any ideas?

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What was the font used in Word?

Do you see it anyplace in Find Font?

Have you highlighted Missing Glyphs in the prefs?

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Oh, Hi Eugene. Just realized you were the OP. Didn't mean to talk down to you.

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No worries. I don't know if there might be a GREP to find open type fractions or similar.

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Sure. .+ and set the find format to OTF Fractions under OpenType Features in the Find Format dialog.

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Hi Eugene,

you could find all missing glyphs with a script by Peter Kahrel written after an idea by Peter Baumgartner:

 

Manage missing glyphs (CS4 and later)
Peter Kahrel
25 Nov. 2019: Added the possibility to apply a character style to any missing glyphs.

https://creativepro.com/files/kahrel/indesign/missing_glyphs.html

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Very good, I should be able to find them using this method.

Anyway to convert them to text once found?

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Hi Eugene:

 

Another option is to design a GREP style that will find numbers that appear both before and after a forward slash, and convert them to fractions automatically. This is an old post, but it still works the same way.

https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-indesign-cs4cs5-got-fractions/

 

~Barb

 

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Thanks Barb, I'll look into this on Monday. Looks like it might work. 

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But you said above the missing fractions are single glyphs...

And this is still subject to the risk of formatting dates as fractions (and if there is no word break included in the GREP possibly sending ID into a tizzy when it encounters a date like 2/19/2022) or formatting the interger part of a number like two and one half as part of the numerator.

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I don't have access to the files to go through it all.

 

But I did see a screenshot you can do some sort of format find for open type fractions.

 

I appreciate all the help and where it is an open type fraction glyph, sometimes reverse engineering can bring ideas.

 

I've a script to work with and great advice from everyone.

 

I'll digest it all on Monday and figure out what is working and what's not.

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