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Font is unexpectedly substituted in Indesign when I copy from original file to a new file

Community Beginner ,
Jan 26, 2024 Jan 26, 2024

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Hi all,

 

When I have copied a page from my client's indesign file to a new Indesign file, the True Type Collection font (PT Sans Bold) is unexpectedly being changed to another font (Times Bold)  (see attached images).  What is strange is the Times Bold font is not even in the Document Fonts folder.  Has anyone experienced this before or knows what the problem is?

 

I am using Indesign 19.1  on a MacIntosh (Ventura 13.6.3)

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Community Expert , Jan 30, 2024 Jan 30, 2024

You have "Times" in "[No Paragraph Style]" - which is unavailable to edit from the UI:

 

RobertTkaczyk_0-1706647893348.png

 

Same is after exporting your INDD file as IDML:

RobertTkaczyk_1-1706647991308.png

 

And because you have almost everything with overrides - "+" next to the ParaStyle(s) names - after copy&paste it reverts to your overrides - even when in my document I have Minion Pro Regular:

RobertTkaczyk_3-1706648263812.png

 

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Jan 26, 2024 Jan 26, 2024

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What is the name of the ParaStyle applied in the client's document and do you have the same style in your document - before copying? 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 29, 2024 Jan 29, 2024

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I do not think this file has a style defined.  Here is a screen cap of the No Paragraph style that is used by the text box.    

I noticed when I create a text box and copy the text from the client's file, the font is defined as Times Bold.  I am able to change it manually.  I

 

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Jan 29, 2024 Jan 29, 2024

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Even No Style has a style definition and this can be different. 
Never work without styles and neber ise the Baic Paragraph Style. Start with your own paragraph style bases on none. The you can copy and paste without font problems. 

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Jan 29, 2024 Jan 29, 2024

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Can you share your document?

 

Without deeper examination we can only guess...

 

It can be CharStyle, local override, ObjectStyle, your default text prooperties are set to Times, etc.

 

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Here is a base version of the Indesign file.  For sake of client confidentiality, I have stripped out any identifying art/text from the original file.  

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You have "Times" in "[No Paragraph Style]" - which is unavailable to edit from the UI:

 

RobertTkaczyk_0-1706647893348.png

 

Same is after exporting your INDD file as IDML:

RobertTkaczyk_1-1706647991308.png

 

And because you have almost everything with overrides - "+" next to the ParaStyle(s) names - after copy&paste it reverts to your overrides - even when in my document I have Minion Pro Regular:

RobertTkaczyk_3-1706648263812.png

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 31, 2024 Jan 31, 2024

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Thanks, this explains why this keeps reverting to the Times font. 

Do you recommend modifying the style so that it does not override?

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There is no easy way to edit "[No Paragraph Style]".

 

First, you should create some "base" ParaStyle and use it as a root ParaStyle. 

 

Then, you should try to avoid local overrides - either by creating and use CharStyles - or create and use additional ParaStyles. 

 

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Are either of these files using fonts that are in a document fonts folder?

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The only font in the documents folder is the PTSans TTC font.  

I am not sure where the Times font is coming from.  Is it because the client's original source document started off with the Times font?

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