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Footnote help

Community Beginner ,
Nov 01, 2022 Nov 01, 2022

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I have a very large document and have linked text boxes only in sections. But the client now wants the footnotes to start at 1 at the begining and flow numerically. Why do they not automatically do that in the document - is it because its not one giant text thread? Dont want to do this manulally is there a fix?

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Community Expert , Nov 01, 2022 Nov 01, 2022

Hi @littlelady40 ,

if you want the footnote numbers continue automatically, you have to thread all text frames that contain footnotes.

That's how the feature is built.

 

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Uwe Laubender
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Nov 01, 2022 Nov 01, 2022

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Hi @littlelady40 ,

if you want the footnote numbers continue automatically, you have to thread all text frames that contain footnotes.

That's how the feature is built.

 

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Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

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Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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I thought so but can nto do this in documents this size. thank you

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 05, 2022 Dec 05, 2022

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Hi how do you thread frames? tnks

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Dec 05, 2022 Dec 05, 2022

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Threading means that the text starts in one text frame and continues into another text frame.

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/threading-text.html

 

When a story is threaded, its text might appear in several frames but they are all linked together to form a continuous "thread."

 

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Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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Hi! This would be a little klunky, but you can use Document Footnote Options (in the Type tab) and set the starting number in the current thread using the Start At #. That would continue through the end of that thread, then set the new starting number in the next thread. 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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Now I tried this, but when you set the number to start at lets says 4 in section two it effects the whole document so all the footnotes in each ection start at same number. I striped them all out and did them manually which is so painful when there is a change or text moves and you have to find them manually 😞

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Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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I'm with you on this one. We run into it on our clients' long tech documents.

InDesign's footnote utility, as good as it is, misses the mark on so many details.

  • Restart footnote numbering at various points in the file.
  • Have multiple footnote series/patterns, more than the standard ones there now. In some technical fields, they use 1,2,3 number footnotes AND also *, **, or a,b,c  in the same document.  Science documents especially use a, b, c for table footnotes and 1,2,3 for body text footnotes.
  • Have custom patterns. Some authors have their own patterns, such as *, †, ‡, **  — whatever crazy sequence the author wants.

 

Consequently, we end up having some manual footnotes in long docs.

Sure wish Adobe would give us a 2.0 version of the footnote utility!

 

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Nov 03, 2022 Nov 03, 2022

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My apologies. I didn't test this fully and was mistaken in thinking that, as with numbered lists where you can set the numbering for each list, this would work with fottnotes. I should have been more thorough!

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Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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You can set the start number only once in a document.

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Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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seems silly Peter if then that option effects the whole document and the footnotes only work on threaded text boxes not the whole document 

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Nov 02, 2022 Nov 02, 2022

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There's an InDesign User Voice feature request for more flexibility in footnote  numbering. You can vote for it, as can others reading this thread. The popularity of the request makes it more likely it will be implemented:

 

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601021-adobe-indesign-feature-requests/suggestions/42042229-re...

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Nov 03, 2022 Nov 03, 2022

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seems silly if then that option affects the whole document and the footnotes only work on threaded text boxes not the whole document 

 

Silly indeed, and that's putting it mildly. As Steve mentioned, please add your voice at https://indesign.uservoice.com

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