Has 'Reveal in finder' been removed from in-context menus?

[csscms]

Hi There, I no longer see 'Reveal in finder' under Graphics in right-click menus. Have also tried searching (Help > Search) for 'finder' but nothing sows for me.

Has this been removed? If not, does anyone know why it might not display?

Also, am I missing something basic or can you not search keyboard shortcuts in InDesign? Couldn't see how to search for 'finder' for example.

Cheers, Ben

InDesign 20.5

1. Right-clicking the image frame...

Right-click frame

2. Right-click the image...

Right-click image

3. Search for 'finder'...

4. Search Keyboard shortcuts...

[csscms]

OK, so it doesn't seem to be linked - after 20 years I didn't even know you could embed files in InDesign!

Is there a way to see which files are embedded from the Links panel?

[Barb Binder]

Yes. Embedded files show the embed icon and the status is set to embed.

~Barb

[csscms]

Thanks @Barb Binder , so what does it mean when the image in question doesn't display in the Links panel at all?

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

Was it was either pasted into InDesign or embedded after placing?

[BobLevine]

Right. Absolutely pasted in.

[csscms]

Got it. Pasted images live outside image management including emdeding.

So is there another way to transfer from Illustrator for editing in InDesign, but keep images (embeds and links) intact?

[leo.r]

So is there another way to transfer from Illustrator for editing in InDesign, but keep images (embeds and links) intact?

By @csscms

Place Illustrator file as usual... Or do you want to edit Illustrator paths in InDesign? Then pasting is the only way, as far as I know.

[csscms]

Yes, it needs to be editable. I think the only way is to paste, then replace the images.

I'm not sure why pasted images don't show as embedded for me but that's how it works - right?

[BobLevine]

I'm not sure why pasted images don't show as embedded for me but that's how it works - right?

By @csscms

That's exactly how it works. When you paste from Illustrator it's no different than had you drawn that path in InDesign. The exception would be if it was too intricate and you'd get an embedded EPS.

[csscms]

@BobLevine OK but I'm asking about pasted images, not art.

Anyway, it seems pasted images are their own thing and aren't treated as embedded assets.

[BobLevine]

Correct. You must place images. Copy/pasting gives you only the screen preview.

Lone exception is pasting from another InDesign document where it's already linked.

[csscms]

@BobLevine @Dave Creamer of IDEAS @Barb Binder Do you think Adobe has any real appetite for making Creative Cloud apps work better together?

I use InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, and After Effects daily (amongst many other apps), and it's shocking how little interoperability there is. It feels like each team works in a silo, instead of building on the best of each app to improve them all.

Take link and font management for example. InDesign is by far the best, why not make that experience standard across all apps? Or the pen tool, Photoshop's is best but Premiere’s is terrible. Or basics like copy/paste, why not copy/paste image links? Universal translation between apps should be standard by now.

Or am I a weirdo for using so many types of apps each day, so no one else notices or cares?

[BobLevine]

They are all tools. Like any other profession you need more than just one. Hammers, screwdrivers, saws, wrenches all have their place.

[Dave Creamer of IDEAS]

• Place
• Drag from desktop
• Drag from Bridge
• Place from Bridge

[Barb Binder]

Hi @csscms:

I use InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop daily (also FrameMaker but let's not go there). It would be awesome if the applications standardized, but at whose expense? Make them all like InDesign for example, and there will be furious Illustrator and Photoshop users. No one likes change.

The way I see it, a.) there's no way for Adobe to please all of us and b.) forcing myself to remember the differences keeps my aging mind active. (A glimpse into my inner dialog: Cmd+D... you are in InDesign so it's File > Place or you are in Photoshop so it's Select > Deselect or you are in Illustrator so it's Object > Transform > Transform Again.) When I can't do that anymore, it's time to go sit on a beach with a book. 

~Barb

[csscms]

@Barb Binder Ha! I hear you on the aging mind. However, the issues mentioned aren’t favourite features. Illustrator’s UserVoice is full of complaints about image & asset linking for example, with most citing InDesign. But not out of love, simply because InDesign's asset handling is far superior. InDesign users understand it doesn't have to be painful.

@BobLevine I'm not suggesting the apps become identical, only the aspects that are identical. Ever tried to replace a font in AfterEffects? Truly, a mind-numbing experience. But because After Effects users haven't used InDesign, they don't understand how easy it can be.

Leveraging features in one app, to improve identical features in other apps, is actually an advantage. The silly thing for Adobe, is that because everything works so differently, it's much easier for people to switch to non-Adobe apps.

Anyway, I see now there's little interest! Cheers