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How can I have both English and Hebrew text written correctly in InDesign?

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Aug 12, 2024 Aug 12, 2024

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How can I have both english and Hebrew text written correctly?

I tried all paragraph composers but none get both written properly.

Either Hebrew comes out left to right or english from right to left.

 

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Aug 12, 2024 Aug 12, 2024

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Are you talking about both in the same paragraph? 

 

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Aug 12, 2024 Aug 12, 2024

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I have combined English and Arabic many times without problems (not too many, anyway).

Set the world composer globally, it handles both Hebrew and English.

The paragraph's alignment is determined by the basic language: right-aligned for Hebrew, left aligned for English.

 

The important part is to use a character style to change character direction. If you have an English text with some Arabic, create a character style for Arabic and set its character direction to right-to-left. (You need a character style anyway yo set the font.)

 

If each language is always a full paragraph, then it's much easier: create a separate paragraph style for both English and Arabic. But I'm guessing you mix langaueges inside paragraphs, correct?

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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I'm working on a hebrew profect with some english text here and there.

It's set on 'eniglish USA' language and on world-ready composer.

The hebrew text come out fine, but all english text is backwards.

For example: number 21 comes as 12!

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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Create a character style for the English text and set its character direction to left-to-right.

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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Hendy374084080dng_0-1723631299354.pngThanks, but where can I change the direction, I don't know why my story panel doesn't give me the option.

This is not the first time I'm having it.

I had to reinstall my whole indesign last time to get it back.

I'm not ready to do that agian.

Any suggestions?

 

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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I don't see such an option in the character styles

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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If you have the Middle-East version installed you should see it in the character style panel.

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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I do and this is what I see.

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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Any suggestion?

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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I do and this is what I see.

 

'This' being what?

 

I guess you wanted to show a screenshot of your character style panel, in which character direction doesn't show. Correct?

 

Then delete InDesign's preferences: exit ID and restart while holding down Alt+Ctrl+Del (or its Mac equivalent). If that doesn't work, remove the caches. And if that doesn't work, reinstall InDesign.

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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Hendy374084080dng_0-1723651325077.png

Hendy374084080dng_1-1723651362969.png

This shows my language it's set on and the character and story panel.

 

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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In your top screen shot, the CC Desktop app shows that you have English (North America) installed. You will need to install English/Hebrew which I think is the one above. That's why you don't haved the direction option. 

 

~Barb

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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I did that, but nothing changed.

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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I closed indesigned, made this change in my preferences and opened up my
document again and nothing has changed.

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Aug 14, 2024 Aug 14, 2024

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To be clear, to access the direction buttons, it's not about changing InDesign preferences or CC preferences.

 

You need to install the English/Hebrew version of InDesign. You might not want to, or be ready to, but the buttons are only available in the ME versions of InDesign. They are not part of the US English (North American) version. 

 

Also, @devorah_9121 and @Hendy374084080dng, are you two separate users with the same issue, or one person with two Adobe IDs. I can't tell. At any rate, @Hendy374084080dng, based on your screen shot, you will need to install an ME version

 

~Barb

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Aug 15, 2024 Aug 15, 2024

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Why might not I want to?

And how do I install it?

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Aug 15, 2024 Aug 15, 2024

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Aug 18, 2024 Aug 18, 2024

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@Hendy374084080dng :

 

In response to: "Why might not I want to?"

 

You said this on August 14:

"I had to reinstall my whole indesign last time to get it back. I'm not ready to do that agian."

 

~Barb

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Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Hendy374084080dng_0-1724164193613.pngIt's on this mode and still not typing both properly.

 

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Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Yes, it's both me, my business account and personal account.

How can I install the ME version?

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Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Great. Now you have the correct version installed.

 

Remember to choose the Adobe World Ready Paragraph Composer. This is done at the paragraph level and the command is found in the Paragraph panel menu, the Control panel menu and in Paragraph Style Options > Justification. 

 

The direction buttons will now appear in three locations:

  • For the entire story (Type > Story)
  • For paragraphs (Type > Paragraph or Type > Paragraph Styles )
  • For selected text within a paragraph (Type > Character > Panel menu or Type Character Styles)

 

If you still don't see them, reset preferences and try again. (Preferences > General > Reset Preference on Quit). Quit, restart InDesign and try again. 

 

~Barb

 

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Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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Hendy374084080dng_0-1724179771786.png

This is my story panel. Don't see an option for direction.

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Aug 20, 2024 Aug 20, 2024

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So you didn't install it yet? Your screen shot shows you at step 4 on this page. https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/access-install-hebrew-arabic-indesign-illustrator-CC.html

 

Will you confirm that you completed steps 5, 6 & 7?

 

~Barb

 

 

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