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How do I fit images for the inner(centre) bleed?

Explorer ,
Jul 21, 2023 Jul 21, 2023

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Hi, good folks!

I've got a problem with fitting images to bleed lines.

 

So, this is the case:

I've set a 3.2mm bleed for all sides. How do I fit the full-page images to those bleed lines? The inner(or centre, more like) bleed lines don't really show.

I've fit the images on the outer bleed lines and the centre line like this one below:

스크린샷 2023-07-21 200506.png

 

and although on InDesign, it looks a bit misaligned, on the PDF file, it looks just fine, like this:

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The images are centred and filled to the bleed area... or so I believe.

 

 

I did the same thing for my chapter introduction page, placing a rectangular frame fit to out bleed lines and the centre of the book:

스크린샷 2023-07-21 200644.png

 

but this time, something was wrong in the PDF file. You can see the patterns on the before page is also shown on the after page.

스크린샷 2023-07-21 200654.png

 

So my questions are:

 

  1. (I think) I did just the same thing for both pages, but the results are different. What would be the cause, and how should I fix this?

  2. All is good if things look good on the PDF file, even if it looks misaligned on the indd file, right?

 

Thank you for your help, have a great day!

Bob

 
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Community Expert , Jul 21, 2023 Jul 21, 2023

Waht you see is normal. Inside bleed is taken from the adjacent edge of the opposite page in the spread uless you plit the spread apart and extend your content. See https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/export-pdf-for-print/td-p/13707810

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Community Expert , Jul 21, 2023 Jul 21, 2023

Is your printer asking for the inside bleed? Usually you can set it to 0—in my example above consider the 8-9 pages spread, which fold at the spine—the printer can‘t include your bleed otherwise the trim size would be wrong.

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Jul 21, 2023 Jul 21, 2023

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My guess is you forgot to tick the 'use document bleed setting' in the PDF export dialog and is is there set to zero 😉 

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I did tick the bok, actually haha but thanks for replying anyway!

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Waht you see is normal. Inside bleed is taken from the adjacent edge of the opposite page in the spread uless you plit the spread apart and extend your content. See https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/export-pdf-for-print/td-p/13707810

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Jul 21, 2023 Jul 21, 2023

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Thank you! I split it! :DD

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Jul 21, 2023 Jul 21, 2023

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Thank you! I split it! :DD

 

Hi @soocheolc13158380 , Is the binding going to be Wire-o? Most book binding methods fold the signature at the spine, so when the signature’s printer spreads are imposed, any inside bleed would have to be removed. For folded and gathered signatures, going to the trouble of spliting pages and adding different inside bleed content would not be necessary, because the inside bleed would have to be removed before going to press

 

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Hi Rob! My book will use the fold method, so I guess you are right!

I was just worried about the image 4 situation there, where inner bleeds collide with each other. But it seems this will have no impact on the final printed result if I understand you correctly.

Still, it's not bad to split them and have each page bleed as intended, right? I mean, the PDF file now looks great!

 스크린샷 2023-07-22 022328.png

 

Thank you for the reply! 😄

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Is your printer asking for the inside bleed? Usually you can set it to 0—in my example above consider the 8-9 pages spread, which fold at the spine—the printer can‘t include your bleed otherwise the trim size would be wrong.

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Oh, I'll be publishing on Amazon KDP, I should check it then.

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It says: "When a book is printed, all pages are trimmed to the selected trim size by cutting 0.125” (3.2 mm) from the top, bottom, and outside edges.", so I shouldn't include the inside bleed!

 스크린샷 2023-07-22 035623.png

I guess this is how it should be, then? Thank you very much, Rob!

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