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How to add a Table border to the style (as opposed to a Cell border)

New Here ,
Jul 12, 2020 Jul 12, 2020

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Hi all,

I've setup custom cell styles with various strokes and fills without a problem. I thought through Table Styles - Table Style Options - Table Setup - Table Border", it will create a border circling the entire table (i.e. at a heavier weight). But it doesn't, doesn't change anything to the table. Am I missing something? Or do I have to change each cell at the perimeters to look as table borders?

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Adobe Community Professional , Jul 13, 2020 Jul 13, 2020
Hi bwnich, table border is just doing this. But a cell style with borders will trump the table border. Also if you did local overrides. The screenshot below is showing two tables with the same table border. In the right table I applied a cell style with a different border to two of the corner cells: Regards, Uwe Laubender ( ACP )

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Jul 13, 2020 Jul 13, 2020

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Hi bwnich,

table border is just doing this. But a cell style with borders will trump the table border.

Also if you did local overrides.

 

The screenshot below is showing two tables with the same table border.

In the right table I applied a cell style with a different border to two of the corner cells:

CellStyleTrumpsTableStyle-Borders.PNG

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

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Jul 13, 2020 Jul 13, 2020

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Thank you Laubender, I understand doing manual changes. So basically cell styles superior over table styles. I think this needs improvement.

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Nov 22, 2021 Nov 22, 2021

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I have been meaning to ask this too. I start with a clean table; not imported.

I made a set of two cell styles. 1 for header; 1 for body. In both, the cell stroke is set to 0 to not show.

Next, in the Table Style that uses the two cell styles, I set table border to, say, 2pt black ink.

It does not show (and the styles are cleanly applied with no + sign overrides anywhere.

I realize that cell strokes would trump the table border, but in this case there are no cell borders.

Why does it not show?

Further, if I directly apply a table border from the Table Setup from Table menu, it does NOT show. 

But if I have the table selected and apply the Table Border from the Control Panel, it DOES show.

I'm confused.

 

Mike Witherell

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 22, 2021 Nov 22, 2021

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Zero (0) is not the same as blank--an empty cell stroke style will let the table setting show though; zero will override any table setting depending on how applied. 

The "pecking order" is:

  1. Manual formatting (Control panel or Table panel)
  2. Cell Styles
  3. Table Styles.

 

I treat my cell styles the same as character styles--put in the least amount of formatting needed to get the job done.

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Thanks, David, I had forgotten that!

So it would seem that some settings require Ignore while other settings require backspacing out the old value until the field is empty because they don't have an Ignore. A bit inconsistent!

Mike Witherell

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