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How to Change the Red Comma in Index to Black?

Explorer ,
Sep 03, 2024 Sep 03, 2024

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Hello,

 

I am using the index. The comma between the pagenumbers is red, instead of black. I cannot find anything in the styling of the index that explains it. I use the same style of index in other books, without this problem. I can I get black comma's?

 

Comma is red in index.jpg

 

René

 

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Community Expert , Sep 03, 2024 Sep 03, 2024

@Rene tbd 

 

I know what the problem is - my friend had a similar problem recently with something else.

 

In your document - when nothing is selected - those are your default Styles - Char and Para:

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1725373699218.png

 

When generating Index - InDesign is using styles defined in the dialog:

 

RobertatIDTasker_1-1725373783236.png

 

BUT then uses DEFAULT CharStyle "to fill the blanks"...

 

When I try to re-create new index - the same happens - commas get this orange CharStyle.

 

 

So the solution to your problem - click anywhere, so nothing is sele

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Sep 03, 2024 Sep 03, 2024

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Hi @Rene tbd,

 

Thank you for reaching out! I understand how frustrating it can be when something as specific as the comma color in your index isn't behaving as expected.

To help you further, could you please let me know the version of InDesign you’re using and the operating system? 

 

In the meantime, one thing you might want to check is whether there is an override or a character style applied specifically to the commas. Even though it’s not evident in the index style, it's possible that a manual override or a different character style is being applied.

 

Let me know if this helps or if you need further assistance!

 

Thank you, 
Abhishek Rao

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Hello Abhishek,

 

I use IIndd 19.5, and Windows 10. I have looked at all styles, including the styles the index is derived from. Comma's in paragraph text are ok. I am not using Grep styles and other files with the same index settings are ok.

 

René

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@Rene tbd

 

If you select this red coma - what will you see in the Char / Para Styles pallets?

 

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Hello Robert,

If I select the comma than the the index style is visible. This is based on the body style. In both cases the character colour is black.  In the screenshot you see how this looks. I hope you can do something with it.

 

René

 

 

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@Rene tbd

 

I was asking about Pallets - not ParaStyle definition - to see info about potential overrides - as mentioned by @Abhishek Rao

 

Any chance you can share your file - or even just this one TextFrame - can be on priv. 

 

Cheers 

 

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Robert,

Thanks for this. I have reduced the file but it's still to large. Please use the link to download is. Indesign RED

 

René

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Robert,

Thanks for this. I have reduced the file but it's still to large. Please use the link to download is. Indesign RED


By @Rene tbd

 

Download is fine.

 

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@Rene tbd 

 

You have "Term L" CharStyle applied to those commas:

RobertatIDTasker_0-1725370563927.png

 

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@Rene tbd 

 

And after Save As with a new name:

 

RobertatIDTasker_1-1725370689283.png

 

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@Rene tbd 

 

Here is a more detailed info about the structure of your text:

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1725371361690.png

 

As you can see - CARRIAGE_RETURN also has this CharStyle applied - and it's 8pt - not 10pt as the rest of the text.

 

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As @Robert at ID-Tasker suspected, there is a chaeacter style applied to the comma.

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As @Robert at ID-Tasker suspected, there is a chaeacter style applied to the comma.


By @jmlevy

 

It was @Abhishek Rao who suggested "you might want to check is whether there is an override or a character style applied specifically to the commas".

 

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Hello jmlevy and Robert,

This is next level for me! I indeed use Term L as a style and the charactor should be orange. I don't see how a comma in a body style (the index) is related to the term L style, which I need the way it is.  A comma in a body style is black as it should be, the is no relation with term L in this case. If I change Term L than the comma is black, but I also lost the style Term L with the orange colour. How is the comma in one style related to Term L (the index) and in another style (the body) to the body style where the character is black. 

On forehand thanks for this. I will get there!

René

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@Rene tbd 

 

It looks like somehow commas in the Index are styled with this "Term L" CharStyle.

 

How have you built this Index? Manually?

 

If you don't have any other CharStyles in the Index Story - you can select whole Index Story - and just apply "[None]" CharStyle - but, just in case, do it on a copy of your document.

 

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@Rene tbd

 

Do you have any GREP style(s) in the definition of the applied ParaStyle?

 

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Hello Robert,

 

I haved looked at it, but there are no Grep styles. Comma's in paragraphes are ok.

René

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@Rene tbd 

 

I know what the problem is - my friend had a similar problem recently with something else.

 

In your document - when nothing is selected - those are your default Styles - Char and Para:

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1725373699218.png

 

When generating Index - InDesign is using styles defined in the dialog:

 

RobertatIDTasker_1-1725373783236.png

 

BUT then uses DEFAULT CharStyle "to fill the blanks"...

 

When I try to re-create new index - the same happens - commas get this orange CharStyle.

 

 

So the solution to your problem - click anywhere, so nothing is selected, then select "[None]" as an active CharStyle - generate Index again.

 

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Robert,

 

Thanks for this, it worked! Odd problem though but fortulately you had a solution. Thanks again!

 

René

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@Rene tbd

 

You're welcome. 

 

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