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How to increase space before registration symbol in every instance

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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I have a paragraph style set up with a grep for registration symbols so they automatically are superscripted but sometimes the symbol is too close to the letter before it and manually adjusting the kerning would take too long because of how many there are. Is there another grep to add to increase the space before the symbol automatically.

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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Instead of using GREP in your ParaStyle definition - which will unnecessarily slow you down - it's simply a one / constant character that doesn't need to by styled dynamically - assign CharStyle globally.

 

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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One approach would be to find the last character followed by the registration mark (which should be in a positive lookahead) and add a positive tracking value.

Not knowing the symbol, or all the possible preceeding characters I can't say whether you would want to use the dot (.),  \w or [\l\u] as your wildcard.

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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Find/Change all instances from [reg mark] to [hair space][reg mark]. This remains consistent across font sizes and styles, and easy to modify/undo. Even if you apply a character style for the other method, the spacing can vary with font and size. (If a hair space isn't enough, try a 1/6 space.)

 

This can be used for almost all superscript characters — TM, R, asterisks, footnote numbers, etc.

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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I like that better than tracking.

Only problem I can see is if the space would interfere with some other operation that requires the mark to be part of the preceding word.

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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NoBreak option? 

 

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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Thinking more of some GREP search, but no break applied to the hair space would be a good idea, I think, on general principle.

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Jul 23, 2023 Jul 23, 2023

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I think the space would be a problem only in some very narrow accessibility issues; I can't imagine it breaking across a line or the like. Applying a nobreak across the combination might be good suspenders-and-belt practice, especially in shorter marketing materials.

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Jul 24, 2023 Jul 24, 2023

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manually adjusting the kerning would take too long because of how many there are

 

Hi @bocdesigninc , If you want to actually kern the insertion point before the registration mark, rather than add a white space before and track, I think you would need a script in order to get all the insertion points. Something like this would find the registration marks and set the kerning of the proceeding insertion point to 50—change 50 in the first line to whatever value you need:

 

 

 

//kerning amount
var k = 50

var res = getTextSearch("®")
for (var i = 0; i < res.length; i++){
    res[i].parentStory.insertionPoints[res[i].index].kerningValue = k;
};   

/**
* Gets results of a text search as an array 
* @ param text to search for 
* @ return result array 
*/
function getTextSearch(fp){
    app.findTextPreferences = app.changeTextPreferences = app.findChangeTextOptions = null;
    app.findChangeTextOptions.properties = {includeHiddenLayers:true, includeLockedLayersForFind:true, includeLockedStoriesForFind:true, includeMasterPages:true} 
    app.findTextPreferences.findWhat = fp;
    return app.activeDocument.findText()
}

 

 

 

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Jul 24, 2023 Jul 24, 2023

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My approach is to use a selected whitespace instead of kerning, not a combination. Both approaches have their merits but combining them is, IMHO, unnecessary churn.

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Jul 24, 2023 Jul 24, 2023

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Hi James, the script doesn’t combine tracking and kerning, or add a white space—it uses a find function to get at the index of the insertion point in front of the reg mark—no white space character is being added.

 

I don’t think there is a way to use the Find/Change dialog to search for, or apply a Character Style, to an insertion point. If there is you do not need the script. I was taking @bocdesigninc’s question literally—they want to kern not track.

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