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I can not use Drop Caps if trying to have an inset paragraph

New Here ,
Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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I cannot make Drop Caps work as it did only a few days ago.  If the paragraph needs to be inset from the left, the drop cap and the following line or 2 are moved further to the right than the bulk of the selected text.  Has anyone else experienced this?

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Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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Screenshots might help.

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Hi Bob, please see the attached screenshot:

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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That looks strange to me.

Is that what you have - or what you need???

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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It's what is being generated by InDesign now. I want the drop cap to align with the inset left margin. If the margin were to the left-most position (not set toward the right) the drop caps seem to work fine, but it steps in further than required/expected, when the left margin is moved right.

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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In your first screenshot, it seems that you have applied an indent on the first line only, and since the drop cap is on 2 lines, the indent applies to the first 2 lines. Did you try to apply the indent on the whole paragraph?

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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I have applied it to the whole paragraph - it is as though the drop cap line and the following line, have been stepped in further - with no input from me!

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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For further context, I have Imported most of the text from MSWord (which I have been doing frequently since I started to use InDesign 5 or 6 years ago), but even when excluding all formatting from the import, this still applies. I have tried cutting and pasting from a previous document where the formating is correct, only to find this problem appears with the new text.

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Can you show the Indents and spacing tab of the paragraph style options window?

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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And in addition: Show us your settings please.

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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See attached:

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Can you please show your settings in: General

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Is this what you want?

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Sorry, No.

 

This is the General tab in prefereces. But I meant the General tab in your paragraph style. Or what @jmlevy mentioned.

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Herewith attached screenshots

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Can you please post a screenshot of this tab?

General Paragraph Option - Basic Paragraph.png

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Here is a shot of the Paragraph Styles indents tab

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You have posted the basic paragraph settings, not the style you are using…

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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Apologies. Herewith is the correct (hopefully) screenshot:

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Nothing weird in your settings but I see that  you have overrided the paragraph style (the small + sign), so I think that there is an indent on the first line. Can you show the paragraph panel (not the paragraph style panel)? What happens if you remove the override?

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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At this point, screenshots no longer seem to be sufficient.

 

@John27125475os0w 

Is it possible for you to save this double page as a separate IDML and as an INDD and open both files again? If that does not work, please upload these two files (without confidential data) to a hoster of your choice (e.g. Dropbox or similar) and post the link here in the forum.

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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I'll try this now and send a further attachment shortly.

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Nov 15, 2022 Nov 15, 2022

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I just opend your file with the 2022 version (I have not installed the 2023 version) and all is OK…

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Well, thank you for your effort. I perhaps have to use a workaround or revert to the 2022 version?

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