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Image numbering scrambled when anchoring picture - now 100+ images

Explorer ,
Feb 21, 2025 Feb 21, 2025

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Hi everybody out there,

I am getting crazy (just as Indesign does):

The numbering of the images in InDesign was completely messed up; there was no solution because every time I anchored an image, the numbers got scrambled. Now I wanted to unanchor _one_  image (using the Haesel AllesEntankern script), and all 106 images have become unanchored. The numbering is more or less correct now. But I'm afraid to close the file because when I open it again, everything will definitely be scrambled. I attach a screenshot, so you can better understand what I mean, when I speak about many pictures.

Moreover ... from one chapter 35 images have disappeared (I was just about to replace them). The text is there, but the images, image frames, and captions are not.

Let alone the text changing page when it pleases to do so... (see screenshot).

I save regularly, including in IDML format, but my deadline is approaching, and I'm starting to despair.

If nobody can help me here, I would be ready to pay an expert. Thanks so much in advance.Screenshot_any pages.png

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Community Expert , Feb 21, 2025 Feb 21, 2025

An update 😉

 

1) Numbering of objects - creation order strikes again (marked in green) - when they are on the same page. 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1740225205851.png

 

2) Keep options - bad UI - also strikes again - extra empty space on the left - was "2" but after changing to "1" - text fills space on the left: 

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1740176913527.png

 

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Community Expert , Feb 21, 2025 Feb 21, 2025

@magnificent_cause16B8 

 

In case of the heads on the left and right - you need to DUPLICATE both at the bottom - currently 43 and 46 - then delete originals and then move duplicates where originals were.

 

The same needs to be done with the photo on the right - in the middle of the text:

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1740178032768.png

 

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Community Expert , Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

Ich würde an Deiner Stelle mehr mit Objektformaten arbeiten. Lege für die Bildunterschrift ein Objektformat an, in dem der obere <Offset und das Absatzfomat festgelegt ist. Dann kannst du die Textrahmen immer anschlagen an das Bild und kriegst immer den selben Abstand, ohne dass du immer messen musst. Das geht schneller.

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Feb 21, 2025 Feb 21, 2025

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Can you share your file? 

 

Please click my nickname if you prefer to do it privately.

 

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Feb 21, 2025 Feb 21, 2025

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Hi @magnificent_cause16B8:

 

Or, could you share the same screenshot with View > Screen mode set to Normal and View > Extras > Show Text Frames and View > Extras > Show Text Threads and Type > Show Hidden characters enabled?

 

The view you shared is hiding all all of the clues to how you set this up.

 

~Barb

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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You are right, Barb, sorry.

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Feb 21, 2025 Feb 21, 2025

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An update 😉

 

1) Numbering of objects - creation order strikes again (marked in green) - when they are on the same page. 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1740225205851.png

 

2) Keep options - bad UI - also strikes again - extra empty space on the left - was "2" but after changing to "1" - text fills space on the left: 

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1740176913527.png

 

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@magnificent_cause16B8 

 

In case of the heads on the left and right - you need to DUPLICATE both at the bottom - currently 43 and 46 - then delete originals and then move duplicates where originals were.

 

The same needs to be done with the photo on the right - in the middle of the text:

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1740178032768.png

 

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Duplicating - eliminating - pasting works perfectly, but once I anchor the picture again, the numbering is wrong again 😞

 

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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There is a very strange thing (at least to me as who is clearly of little experience):

Although all pictures are unanchored, they are where they are supposed to be positioned (i.e. where I left them last night). Is that just a coincidence or should I really leave them without anchoring?

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Genau das ist das Problem. Gruppiere die Bilder mit dem dazugehörigen Text und verankere diese im Text. Dann folgen diese der korrekten Reihenfolge. Nicht verankerte Bilder sind kaum zu steuern.

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Sollte ich also zuerst für die korrekte Nummerierung sorgen und dann vom ersten bis zum letzten Bild das Ganze in der richtigen Reihenfolge verankern, damit mir nicht wieder alles durcheinander kommt?

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Ich würde die Nummerierung automatisch lassen. Wenn Du später Bilder einfügst oder löscht, so sollten wohl sich alle Nummern automatisch aktualisieren.

(Inhaltlich: Ich habe daheim ein Geschichtsbuch aus der Zeit Franz-Josef I, der Österreich als Deutsches Reich bezeichnet. Den Titel  Deutscher Kaiser löscht man ihm erst 1920 posthum, als Österreich seine Hymne (Deutschlandlied) endgültig an den Restdeutschland abgab.)

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Die Nummerierung ist jetzt schon automatisch und korrekt. Sie ändert sich nur seltsamerweise in dem Moment, in dem ich das Bild verankere.

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Duplicating - eliminating - pasting works perfectly, but once I anchor the picture again, the numbering is wrong again 😞

 

By @magnificent_cause16B8

 

But you haven't Anchored the ones on the margin to the same Story. 

 

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Only now I have fully understood how to change the image order. Thanks again for helping dummies like me.

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Ich würde an Deiner Stelle mehr mit Objektformaten arbeiten. Lege für die Bildunterschrift ein Objektformat an, in dem der obere <Offset und das Absatzfomat festgelegt ist. Dann kannst du die Textrahmen immer anschlagen an das Bild und kriegst immer den selben Abstand, ohne dass du immer messen musst. Das geht schneller.

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Feb 22, 2025 Feb 22, 2025

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Das habe ich gemacht, ist wirklich ein großer Vorteil.

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