InDesign génère des fichiers exportés anormalement lourds

New Here ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Bonjour ! 
depuis un mois, mes produits Adobe (Photshop et Indesign) génèrent des exports hyper lourds. De simple cartes de visite pèsent jusqu'à 30 Mo, sans aucun imports lourds dedans, une image optimisée... bref... pas normal. 
Quelqu'un aurait il rencontré le problème ? 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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What version of InDesign? Are you exporting to PDF? If so, what export setting are you using?

 

Or are you talking about the native .indd and .psd files? If native .indd files, try saving as using a new name. You might also try saving the .indd files as .idml files. Then resave as an .indd file.

 

 

 

~Barb

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New Here ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Hello barb, thanks for your support. 

When I export a .indd file to PDF, my file is soooooo heavy. It's insane. 
My file .indd is already heavy, 120 Mo for a A6 (no shadows or transparency...)

I do not understand. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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When I export a .indd file to PDF, my file is soooooo heavy

With which export settings?

Avec quels paramètres d'export ?

 

My file .indd is already heavy, 120 Mo for a A6

Start by “saving it as”, the file size will reduce.

Commence par faire un « enregistrer sous », la taille du fichier va diminuer.

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New Here ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Bonjour JM merci de votre participation. 

Que je sois en paramètre "Taille de fichier minimale", "qualité moyenne" ou "qualité supérieure" TOUS mes exports finissent a des poids incohérents. 

C'est à n'y rien comprendre. 

Je ne peux pas faire "enregistrer sous" pour obtenir un PDF. Obligé de faire "exporter". 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Je ne peux pas faire "enregistrer sous" pour obtenir un PDF. Obligé de faire "exporter".

je parle d'enregistrer sous pour obtenir un nouveau fichier InDesign. Le fait de faire cette manip allègera le fichier (avant et après) :

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Ce serait intéressant de voir les détails des paramètres d'export

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New Here ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Aaah ok ! je fais la manip dès que possible. J'ai déjà gagné du poids sur mon fichier InDesign en l'enregistrant en .idml. 

 

Mais le problème persiste lors de l'export en PDF. Le poids est sans aucune cohérence avec le fichier InDesign. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 17, 2021 Nov 17, 2021

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When I export a .indd file to PDF, my file is soooooo heavy. It's insane.
My file .indd is already heavy, 120 Mo for a A6 (no shadows or transparency...)

 

It sounds like it could be a metadata problem. See this thread:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/huge-pdf-file-after-exporting-from-project-with-...

 

Can you share the 120MB .indd file via your CC account or a service like Dropbox?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Hi @Alban5023:

 

We still don't know which version of InDesign you are using—please let us know. Since this is a 2-part question, let's get the InDesign file size resolved first. Then we can look at the Acrobat file size.

 

Here are the InDesign file size tips in a single list:

  • Just a simple File > Save As can reduce the size of an InDesign .indd file.
  • A second option is to save as .idml, and then save the .idml file back to an .indd file.
  • Be sure to link graphics (use File > Place and don't paste or embed them) and delete any content that may be hanging out on the pasteboard. 

 

Also, what is the actual and effective ppi of the "image optimisée"—you can see this information in Windows > Links.

 

~Barb

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New Here ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Barb, 

I'm using InDesign 16.4
The user "philosophie" share the same problem with InDesign 17.01

I do not have size or weight problem with my InDesign files. It's just the PDF file wich is insanely too heavy. 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Bonjour, oui j'ai le même problème des pdf trop lourd et qui sont insensible au paramétrage... j'ai posté un post hier sur le sujet sans réponse pour l'instant mais c'est un VRAI PROBLEME.

 

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Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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J'utilise adobe indesign 17.01 pour Mac-OS Big Sur 11.6 pour l'export en pdf j'ai essayé divers parametre. le résultat est toujours des fichiers trop lourds.

PS : j'ai essayé sur 1 second mac toujours avec indesign 17.01 mais avec Mac OS catalina et les fichiers sont trop lourds également

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New Here ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Hello Philosophie, 
le problème est un vria gros problème comme tu dis. On reste en contact et le premier qui trouve prévient l'autre ? 
Mon mail : [lien retiré par le modérateur] 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 17, 2021 Nov 17, 2021

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Mettre une adresse mail sur un forum public est la porte ouverte aux spams ! Merci d'échanger vos mails via MP

Pour avancer sur le problème, merci de poster des captures d'écran sur lesquelles on peut voir les réglages de compression et de sortie.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 18, 2021 Nov 18, 2021

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Alors c'est pas une résolution complete du problème et surtout ça n'explique pas le changement de comportement entre l'ancienne version d'ind et la nouvelle.

Mais lorsque je fais un export en acrobat pdf 1.3 le fichier est beaucoup moins lourd... ce format vire les infos tel que transparence etc et certainement des infos parasite...  mon fichier de 60 M0 fait 10 MO avec les même paramêtre.

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 18, 2021 Nov 18, 2021

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Il faut surtout vérifier les valeurs de compression et de sous-échantillonnage, c'est ça qui fait la différence.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 18, 2021 Nov 18, 2021

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Le problème c'est quand dans tous les autres formats (ni la compression ni le rééchantillonage ne change Le poid du fichier.

Par exemple si je suis en compatibilité Acrobat 5 (pdf1.4) ou superieur

si je met sous echantillonage 300 dpi et qualité image Maximum le pdf fait 63 MO.

si je met sous echantillonage 150 dpi et qualité image moyenne le pdf fait 61 MO.

Ce qui est anormale

 

Alors qu'en compatibilité Acrobat 4 (pdf1.3) 

si je met sous echantillonage 300 dpi et qualité image Maximum le pdf fait 20 MO.

si je met sous echantillonage 150 dpi et qualité image moyenne le pdf fait 4 MO.

 

Là les valeurs sont comparable avec ce que j'ai toujours eu avec les versions précédentes

Donc il y' a un problème anormale

 

 

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Nov 18, 2021 Nov 18, 2021

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My file .indd is already heavy, 120 Mo for a A6 (no shadows or transparency...)

 

Can you Package and share the problem InDesign file and assets via a file sharing service?

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New Here ,
Nov 23, 2021 Nov 23, 2021

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I have the same problem and it seems to have nothing to do with my file. Indeed, the problem is persistant with any of my files. And I have this problem with Adobe Photoshop too. It's a ADOBE problem. ^^

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 24, 2021 Nov 24, 2021

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Can you share an example?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 24, 2021 Nov 24, 2021

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Hi Glenn:

 

The Photoshop side of this question is best asked on the Photoshop forum. But do keep in mind that Photoshop file sizes are primarily dependent upon the file resolution, how many layers you're working with, what color mode you are using, how many alpha channels you have saved, the use of smart objects, and if you're using artboards. This is very different from a bloated InDesign file. 

~Barb 

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Here’s a ancestor metadata file size example. test.psd is an empty, single layer, 1980 x 1020px doc with a file size of 66MB. The Bloat test ID file is a single page, with test.psd placed—file size is 257MB. After running the metadata script the file sizes drop to 124KB & 958KB:

 

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