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Is there a way to add a gap for bleed between 'Facing Pages'?

Community Beginner ,
Oct 31, 2022 Oct 31, 2022

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Is there a way to add a gap for bleed between 'Facing Pages'?

I don't want the bleed to appear on the opposite page (on my exported PDF). I would like to show the bleed as if the document was set up without facing pages. Sample attached: current bleed, facing pages, without facing pages.

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Community Expert , Oct 31, 2022 Oct 31, 2022

Hi @GodderP , If the binding method uses folded and gathered signatures—e.g. saddle stitch, perfect binding—the inside bleed would be removed during the imposition at the folds, so its content doesn’t really matter.

ImpositionIllustration.png

 

If it’s something like wire-o where the inside page edges are exposed and trimmed, then you might setup the document as non facing pages, but with spreads—with Facing Pages unchecked the Pages tool can be used to separate the spread pages. See this thread:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/gutter-bleed-still-the-same/m-p/11367643#M198592

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Community Expert , Oct 31, 2022 Oct 31, 2022

You need to set your pages up like this

EugeneTyson_0-1667280202472.png

 

 

You can do this manually by dragging the page slightly to the side. 

 

If you have lots of pages there's a script 

https://creativepro.com/breaking-pages-apart-to-bleed-off-a-spine/

 

 

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Community Expert , Nov 01, 2022 Nov 01, 2022

You don't need the page tool to do this.

Set up as facing pages, and in the Pages Panel flyout menu uncheck Allow Document Pages to Shuffle. You can then simply grab one page of any spread in the panel and drag it away from its partner until you see a vertical line.

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Not a direct answer to your question - but and idea how you could set up your document:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/data-merge-for-book-covers/m-p/13295281

 

Can automate anything - as long as it doesn't require A.I.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 03, 2022 Nov 03, 2022

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That's way over my head. But thanks for the option.

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How is the book being bound?

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Hi @GodderP , If the binding method uses folded and gathered signatures—e.g. saddle stitch, perfect binding—the inside bleed would be removed during the imposition at the folds, so its content doesn’t really matter.

ImpositionIllustration.png

 

If it’s something like wire-o where the inside page edges are exposed and trimmed, then you might setup the document as non facing pages, but with spreads—with Facing Pages unchecked the Pages tool can be used to separate the spread pages. See this thread:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/gutter-bleed-still-the-same/m-p/11367643#M198592

 

Keep in mind that with Facing Pages unchecked there is no spine so the Paragraph justification setting Align Toward Spine does not work.

 

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You need to set your pages up like this

EugeneTyson_0-1667280202472.png

 

 

You can do this manually by dragging the page slightly to the side. 

 

If you have lots of pages there's a script 

https://creativepro.com/breaking-pages-apart-to-bleed-off-a-spine/

 

 

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Very odd - the pages tool only allows me to move page up or down - you can't separate the pages anymore on the X ??? 

When did that change?

 

Ah ok you can only do it when it's NOT facing pages

But ou can move the page on a document beside another page

Use the Page Tool and separate the page on the X axis

This then shows the bleed for the page that's beside it

EugeneTyson_0-1667280961944.png

 

 

When you make the pdf it shows the bleeds

EugeneTyson_1-1667281059288.png

 

 

Make sure Spreads is selected when making the PDF.

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You don't need the page tool to do this.

Set up as facing pages, and in the Pages Panel flyout menu uncheck Allow Document Pages to Shuffle. You can then simply grab one page of any spread in the panel and drag it away from its partner until you see a vertical line.

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Hi Peter

 

Yes I explained this earlier too in a prior post. 


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For wire-o, I prefer facing pages off so I can see the spread pages together.

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Community Beginner ,
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This worked for me, but I'm still interested in the option below.

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Wow, How did you do this? "Use the Page Tool and separate the page on the X axis

This then shows the bleed for the page that's beside it"

I can't get it to have the gap (see attached)

 

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In the Document Setup - Facing Pages has to be ticked off.

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EugeneTyson_0-1667497073668.png

 

 

Allow pages to shuffle = off

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Move page 3 up beside page 2

 

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Page tool

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MOve it across

 

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IF you already have a document with Facing Pages

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Turn off Facing PAges

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Then repeat the above process. 

 

*****NOTE******

It's best to start with a Facing Pages document - as you can retain your Left and Right Parent pages. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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