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Is this a mistake by Indesign or am I making one?

Community Beginner ,
Apr 18, 2024 Apr 18, 2024

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In my two-column layout, the numbering of the illustrations appears in the wrong order.
I have supplied all the necessary definitions for this in my sample file.
I have searched the instructions and have been unable to find a solution.

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Apr 18, 2024 Apr 18, 2024

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@KOLKRABE 

 

I've moved your post from Using the Community (for forum questions) to InDesign for you.

 

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Apr 18, 2024 Apr 18, 2024

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There doesn't seem to be any method to doing the numbering other than to type it in a text frame and group with your rectangles.

Can you provide some details about how you built this sample and maybe we can figure out what you need to change.

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Apr 18, 2024 Apr 18, 2024

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Hi @KOLKRABE , Each of your captions is a text frame with a single paragraph. In order to get Bullets and Numbering paragraph feature to work the way you are expecting, the caption text frames would need to be threaded with a frame break character inserted after each caption:

 

Screen Shot.png

 

A frame break character inseted at the end of the caption:

 

Screen Shot 1.png

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Apr 19, 2024 Apr 19, 2024

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Thank you very much, that was a good tip. I was able to apply it to my case.
I have a whole book here with 18 chapters and a whole series of pictures (and footnotes etc.) in each chapter, which also had to change position in the course of editing. At the end, a list of illustrations is generated from this, in which the captions have to be exchanged for the source texts. So full concentration.
In the places where I was not satisfied with the automatic figure numbering, I was able to proceed locally. So I inserted the frame break at the end of the captions in these places and then re-linked these frames.
What is Indesign doing internally that makes such an intervention necessary?
I would like to see a better algorithm from Adobe, because such a procedure is completely normal in the work as described above.

Thank you, thank you



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Apr 19, 2024 Apr 19, 2024

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The feature you are using is for automatic numbering of continuous paragraphs, not one line caption or text frame numbering—there is not a text frame numbering feature

 

Here there is a single paragraph styled to auto number starting with 11:

 

Screen Shot 8.png

 

If I insert returns, new paragraphs are created with the numbering sequence:

 

Screen Shot 9.png

 

If I replace a return with a Frame Break the paragraphs after overflow the frame:

 

Screen Shot 11.png

 

If I thread the overflow to a new frame the paragraph numbering continues:

 

Screen Shot 10.png

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Apr 19, 2024 Apr 19, 2024

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Yes, thank you too.
It's sort of the same solution, just described differently, if I've understood correctly.

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Apr 19, 2024 Apr 19, 2024

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@KOLKRABE 

 

If your captions are single paragraphs - it would be much better for you = less hassle - if you define and apply ParaStyle like this:

 

RobertTkaczyk_0-1713555679863.png

 

Then you can avoid inserting TextFrame breaks manually and you don't have to worry about the max height of TFs.

 

You can also easily re-link your TFs:

https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/indesign/using/threading-text.html

Add a frame inside a sequence of threaded frames

 

Extremely useful when you are working with maps and POIs.

 

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