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Printing bleed invades next page when PDFing

Explorer ,
Nov 12, 2023 Nov 12, 2023

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Hi all

this has been an annoying problem i can't seem to fix

1- below is my parent page for a left sided contents list

 

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2- when i PDF the book WITH bleeds

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3- the bleed leaks to the next printable page

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4- but it only leaks for this page, not the page turners etc

5- help - fire as many questions as you need. ill try and screenshot and answer all questions in a single post

 

Thanks so much clever people

sean 

 

 

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Explorer , Nov 13, 2023 Nov 13, 2023

Thanks so much Rob

This is exactly what i was looking for. You are right, the printers will trim the "invasive bleed" away

This will do for me, but it still feels like fudging the bleed to disappear

The bleed should come to the red line on the page with the bleed, not invade the next pages' attributes (as above)

It seems a sloppy work around for such a top notch piece of software. But hey im happy

Thanks again Rob

Sean

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Nov 13, 2023 Nov 13, 2023

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Hi @Sean5CF1 , With facing page documents the Inside Bleed comes from the spread's opposite page. Unless the document's binding method trims and exposes the inside edge (e.g., wire-o), the Inside Bleed gets removed by the printer during imposition. Typically for bindings where the signatures are folded and gathered, the Inside Bleed should be set to 0.

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Thanks so much Rob

This is exactly what i was looking for. You are right, the printers will trim the "invasive bleed" away

This will do for me, but it still feels like fudging the bleed to disappear

The bleed should come to the red line on the page with the bleed, not invade the next pages' attributes (as above)

It seems a sloppy work around for such a top notch piece of software. But hey im happy

Thanks again Rob

Sean

Sean5CF1_0-1699924766744.png

 

 

 

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Nov 13, 2023 Nov 13, 2023

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You are right, the printers will trim the "invasive bleed" away

 

What's the binding method? Signatures get folded at the spine, not trimmed. When the pages are imposed into printer spreads there can't be an inside bleed.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imposition

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Nov 29, 2023 Nov 29, 2023

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Thanks Rob

550 pages

Both folded and spiral bound versions of manual are printed

Setting inside bleed to 0 worked a treat, but as above all page turners show a bleed "trim" colour, only the main page seems to invade the next page - very odd

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Nov 29, 2023 Nov 29, 2023

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Both folded and spiral bound versions of manual are printed

 

If the binding method has a visible trimmed inside edge, you do need the inside bleed. See this thread:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/gutter-bleed-still-the-same/m-p/11367643#M198592

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Nov 30, 2023 Nov 30, 2023

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Thanks Rob

None of that worked particularly step 3.

  1. Select the pages of the spread
  2. Page Panel Menu > Deactivate "Allow Selected Pages to Shuffle"
  3. Select only one page of the spread in the page panel and drag it to its side until a beam appears release

 

Also looked at the video  on the link provided, got single pages above one another, (again a sloppy method to do a simple task), however increasing the craphic to the bleed edge resulted in the same issue

 

essentially can get a ledt page and a seperate right page

maybe a windows thing? every exmple and online graphic is iOS

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Nov 13, 2023 Nov 13, 2023

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If you do not want an oposite bleeding, but you need an inside bleeding, like for wire-O-binding, you need to separate the left and right page into 2 separate spreads and increase images and backgrounds to the blees frame.

  1. Select the pages of the spread
  2. Page Panel Menu > Deactivate "Allow Selected Pages to Shuffle"
  3. Select only one page of the spread in the page panel and drag it to its side until a beam appears release it.

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Nov 29, 2023 Nov 29, 2023

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It has been always like that - in every DTP software - and is perfectly normal. 

 

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Nov 30, 2023 Nov 30, 2023

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Wire-o or spiral binding would need some kind of intervention in order to add an inside bleed that comes from the page. Either the method Will describes above or setting up a non facing page document with spreads, which is covered in the link I posted. Both methods have pros and cons.

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