problems to export pdf x3 for printing since update

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Oct 24, 2021 Oct 24, 2021

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Hello communitiy i have problems to export pdf x3 for printing since update 2021 - anyone else? Thank you!

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 24, 2021 Oct 24, 2021

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Which version of InDesign and OS?

What kind of PDF problems?

Have you tried PDF/X-4?

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Indesign Version 16.4 . I tried the PDF/X4 export which is successful but not with the right color profile and  low resolution instead of high print quality (300dpi) although i adjusted it before....

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Windows 10 Pro

 

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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What sort of problems?

 

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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can not export the PDF-X3 for printing a problem report pops up...since InDesign Version 2021 16.4.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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You'll have to be a lot clearer in what is happening. 

 

What does 'printing a problem pops up' mean - are you receiving an error? What error?

Can you post screenshots of what is happening?

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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yes i am receiving error - here is the screenshot

SharedScreenshot problem.jpg

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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this error pops up after i exportet the PDf and while processing  this error  is showing and no pdf file will be exported

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Did you try half-blade method? 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/error-background-pdf/m-p/10674466#M156981

 

 

 

Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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yes i tried halfe blade method  - no side gets exported (have onlye 2 sides in this project) but in PDF x4 it does but with the wrong color managemend i set up before......

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Ok - make sure you're working on a backup of this file before conitniuing.

 

Try exporting your InDesign file to IDML

Open the IDML file in InDesign and save it as a new file with a new file name (do not overwrite your previous file).

 

Does that clear it up?

 

If not - try setting up a new document - with same page size and margins.

Try moving your pages to a new document. 

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/pages-spreads-1.html#:~:text=Move%20or%20copy%20pages%20betwe....

 

I suspect it's something dodgy in the file itself. 

 

If it's still not working - can you send the file or share it along with your PDF JobOptions?

 

 

 

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New Here ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Here is the data - but will try your proposal now

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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i need to export PDF x3 like i always used before the update to idesign 2021 16.4 for exapmle with iso coated v2  or PSO v3. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Jetzt mal auf Deutsch:

Was genau steht da in Rot im Screenshot?

Ich kann's echt nicht lesen.

Vor allem klapp' mal die Fehlermeldung auf.

 

Um genau herauszufinden, was da los ist, könntest Du auch nach PDF exportieren ohne einen "Hintergrundprozess" zu benutzen. Der Vorteil wäre, dass Dir möglicherweise die Seite angezeigt wird, bei der der Export fehl schlägt.

 

Ohne "Hintergrundprozess" geht folgendermaßen:

 

[1] InDesign herunterfahren

[2] Eine leere Textdatei anlegen mit exakt diesem Namen:

DisableAsyncExports.txt

[3] Diese leere Textdatei legst Du in das Verzeichnis wo auch Deine InDesign exe-Datei liegt.

Vermutlich hier:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe InDesign 2021\

[4] InDesign neu starten und den Export neu anstoßen.

 

Falls Du wieder mit Hintergrundprozessen beim Export arbeiten möchtest:

Einfach die Textdatei löschen oder umbenennen.

 

Gruß,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

 

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Hier steht nur, dass der Export der PDF-Datei fehlgeschlagen ist und der Name der Datei.

Ich versuche den Vorgang ohne Hintergrundprozess.

 

Ich hab oft gelesen, dass es mit den Farbprofilen zusammenhängen kann/soll... die nicht mehr richtig synchronisiert werden?!? Da ich hier auch ein Problem hab wenn ich per PDF X4 exportiere. Hier klappt der Export zwar problemlos, aber die Profile sind nicht wie ausgewählt in der Datei und auch die Druckquali (dpi) stimmt plötzlich nicht mehr, obwohl richtig ausgewählt (300dpi). Sprich, die Druckdaten sind so nicht zu gebrauchen.... War vor dem Update nie ein Problem.

 

 

Gruß

Sabrina

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Hallo Sabrina,

ok. Dann speicher mal eine eigene PDF/X-4-Exportvorlage ab. Mit neuem Namen.

Ändere die Auflösung in "nicht herunterrechnen" und wähle das Ausgabeprofil.

 

Gruß,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

 

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Die X4 datei ohne Herunterrechnen ist jetzt sehr groß , so dass ich sie hier nicht hochladen kann....

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Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Also hat der Export jetzt funktioniert.

Über die Dateigröße der PDF-Datei würde ich mir keine Sorgen machen. Der RIP ( Raster Image Prozessor ) des Druckplattenbelichters der Druckerei wird damit spielend zurecht kommen.

 

Gruß,
Uwe Laubender

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Der Export hat funktioniert, ja. 🙂 Kann ich feststellen, ob das richtige Farbprofil hinterlegt ist? Das war auch ein Fehler, den ich nach em Update hatte - das bei X4 trotz Voreinstellung, nicht das richtige Farbprofil eingebettet war....

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Aber ja. In Acrobat Pro DC.

Die Seitenleiste links aufklappen: Unter dem Symbol mit dem "i" den Standard auslesen.

Oder den Namen des Simulationsprofils in der "Output Preview" in der Abteilung "Print Production" ablesen.

Sollte dann, wenn ich's richtig verstanden habe, auf "Output Intent: PSO Coated v3" stehen.

 

Gruß,
Uwe Laubender

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Vielen Dank soweit 🙂

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Auf was Du noch achten solltest, wenn's mit dem PSO Coated v3 hundertprozent korrekt ablaufen soll:

Der OutputIntent setzt sich aus zwei Teilen zusammen:

 

Identifier:

Info:

 

Wird beim Export nach PDF/X-4 im Tab "Ausgabe" bei den Einstellungen zu "PDF/X" beim Namen des Ausgabeprofils "Dokument-CMYK-…" eingetragen und das Feld bei "Kennung der Ausgabebedingung" leer gelassen, dann wird fälschlicherweise der OutputIntent im PDF so dargestellt:

 

Identifier: FOGRA27

Info: PSO Coated v3

 

Dies ist ein Bug!

InDesign müsste aus dem Farbprofil FOGRA51 auslesen.

 

Trägt man also FOGRA51 in das Feld "Kennung der Ausgabebedingung" ein, ist man auf der sicheren Seite.

Das Problem dabei: Dieser Eintrag wird nicht in der PDF/X-4-Exporteinstellung gespeichert und muss bei jedem PDF-Export per Hand nachgetragen werden.

 

Wie komme ich auf den Eintrag FOGRA51? Schau' hier nach:

http://www.eci.org/doku.php?id=de:colorstandards:offset

 

"FOGRA51 – PSO Coated v3 – Druckbedingung 1, Premium gestrichenes Papier (ISO 12647-2:2013 PC 1)"

 

Gruß,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

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