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Rotating ellipses for space orbit construction

Community Beginner ,
Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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Hi there, and thanks for reading this! 

Basically, I need to figure out how to rotate an ellipse about a line, instead of its central point. What I'm trying to do is create illustrations like this:

 

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I've attempted it by duplicating the initial ellipse (such as the grey one above), and then using a combination of rotate and skew, but that turns out to be a frustrating excercise in futility. Anyone have any suggestions? Is there a way to do this without a billion workaround steps? Also, if a solution exists and is easier in Photoshop, that would work as well.

 

Thank you!

(Example image grabbed randomly from Google images.)

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Community Expert ,
Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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That diagram can be done in InDesign, but really really... this is a job for Illustrator, with much more powerful vector art tools. Photoshop is not the right tool, either way.

 

To be honest, though, those two ellipses look identical to me, simply pivoted on a central point. Have you tried that instead of assuming a more complex tranformation is needed?

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That's the same ellipse, rotated on its center.

 


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Thank you!

I DID just assume a more complex transform was involved, the result of overthinking the situation. But you are correct... that's actually all that's required, if the orbital ellipse is the same as the equatorial ellipse. Some of the required orbits have longer major axes or different eccentricities, and not all intercept the equatorial plane along their minor axes, but that I may be able to do in the same way.

 

Thank you for the insight!

 

-j

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Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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In InDesign, the center of rotation is controlled by the proxy. You set the reference point, and then initiate the rotation.

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You said Photoshop was an option, but what about Illustrator? You have a lot more controls in Illustrator, including setting the center of rotation wherever you like by clicking with the Rotate tool.

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~Barb

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Thank you!

I do have Illustrator, and will try your ideas out there. I have the least experience with illustrator, so my mind didn't go there right away.

-j

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Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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Rotate an object with the Rotate tool in Illustrator

  1. Select one or more objects.
  2. Select the Rotate tool.
  3. Do any of the following:
    • To rotate the object around its center point, drag in a circular motion anywhere in the document window.
    • To rotate the object around a different reference point, click once anywhere in the document window to reposition the reference point. Then move the pointer away from the reference point and drag in a circular motion.
    • To rotate a copy of the object instead of the object itself, hold down Alt (Windows) or Option (Mac OS) after you start to drag.

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Feb 04, 2023 Feb 04, 2023

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You can click and hold on the Type tool to reveal the type on path tool

 

Copy your 'satelite' 

 

And type on the path of the orbit

And paste your satelite

 

You'll now have an anchored object

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Object>Type On path

Type On path options

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Align Center

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Click back into your Path and Select All (to select satelite)

Use the Text Alignment to Center the text

 

Top right of screenshot

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Now you can grab that little blue handle and drag it around the orbit - as free as you like

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Thank you!

That's pretty cool.

Much appreciated!

-jess

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