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Text: Create outline: bullets vanish

Community Beginner ,
Feb 10, 2021 Feb 10, 2021

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Hello bright people,

Can anyone tell me if there's a way, when creating Outlines of text, for BULLETS to not disappear completely? Can we ask Adobe to work on this issue? Not sure I want the hassle of manually creating & superimposing a column of tiny circles.

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Engaged , Feb 11, 2021 Feb 11, 2021

Hi @BeckOzineedhelp,
do you mean converting text into paths?

If so, you just expierenced one of the reasons why you shouldn't outline in the first place.
If you have to outline, for whatever reasons, do it in the PDF.

Outlining text is not necessary unless you do maybe some sort of cut contour.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 11, 2021 Feb 11, 2021

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You can add special bullets (and colours) to a bulleted list via a Character Style, no need to outline.

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Feb 11, 2021 Feb 11, 2021

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The correct answer is, never outline text as you loose automatic bullets and numbers, paragraph rules, frames and shadows, xyou loose also text frame borders and areas and much more. Don't do that. Why would you do this? This is not necessarry, as it causes only problems, much more than mentioned.

 

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Apr 26, 2022 Apr 26, 2022

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Shouldnt you outline text before print? If yes then having a second stage to outline bullet points is ridiculous 

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Apr 26, 2022 Apr 26, 2022

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No; this should NEVER be necessay! 

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Feb 11, 2021 Feb 11, 2021

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Hi @BeckOzineedhelp,
do you mean converting text into paths?

If so, you just expierenced one of the reasons why you shouldn't outline in the first place.
If you have to outline, for whatever reasons, do it in the PDF.

Outlining text is not necessary unless you do maybe some sort of cut contour.

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Feb 16, 2021 Feb 16, 2021

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There is a more reliable way of creating outlines from type that relies on Adobe Acrobat. The details can be found over at Creative Pro: https://creativepro.com/outlining-fonts-the-2016-edition/

 

I did write an article "outlining" (pardon the pun) the issues of outlining type recently on my blog: https://colecandoo.com/2021/02/15/outlining-the-problem-text-outlining/

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Apr 26, 2022 Apr 26, 2022

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As others have said, converting text to paths is almost never necessary in InDesign. The only exceptions are when you want to use the text as a frame (for example to mask a photo) or manipulate the paths (for example to merge cursive fonts) or sometimes apply a gradient (which is an PITA when applied to text).

In adition to losing bullets and numbering you will also lose underlines, tab leaders, strikethroughts, table frames and fills, and the strokes, fills, and effects on your text frames. Outlines also get messed up becasue InDesign cannot apply outlines on compound paths if you want the oultine aligned to the outside or inside of the path.

There aren’t no reasons to convert to paths, but there are few.

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