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Community Beginner ,
Sep 20, 2023 Sep 20, 2023

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Hello!

I've been having this issue for a while, but for some reason when I copy and paste text into a text box, it will cut off halfway through. I did fix the problem originally by checking the hyphenation in paragraph styles, but now it's starting to have this issue even when hyphenation is checked. It'll jump like this on the basic paragraph styles on Indesign. I've tried creating new paragraph styles and returning all of the other styles (text box, object, chart, ect.) to the original formats. I've also tried creating a whole new document but the text will still cut off. Nothing seems to work besides deleting and re-typing the section, which is teadious since it's a bussiness calender. 

Anyone have any ideas?

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Sep 20, 2023 Sep 20, 2023

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Hi @Lizzy324178588mo8:

 

Start by examining the Keep Settings on the last paragraph and the ones that follow. (You can't see those at this time, so use Story Editor to view them.) I'm happy to take a look at the file, if you are comfortable sharing it. Put it on dropbox (or similar) and direct-message me this link by clicking my avatar above this reply and click on Message. 

 

~Barb

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Hello!

Thank you for replying, do you want the Indesign file or the text file? I tried looking at the Story Editor, but I'm not too sure what to be looking for.

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Sep 20, 2023 Sep 20, 2023

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Hi Lizzy:

 

The InDesign document so that I can see what is happening in your screen shot.

 

~Barb

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Sep 20, 2023 Sep 20, 2023

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Unfortunetly, I keep getting an error saying the message doesn't support .indd or .zip files for a personal message, but I'm able to send it here. 

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Sep 20, 2023 Sep 20, 2023

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I don't have your fonts - but for some reason this is the culprit:

 

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When removed - all text is showing fine.

 

[EDIT] You don't even have to delete it - just to "nudge" it and then you can move it around again and problem is not happening again?? Or "nudge" TextFrame with the main text.

 

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Ah sorry, we added it a little earlier, but we get the problem when we remove the text box as well. 

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Sep 20, 2023 Sep 20, 2023

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We're not too sure if it's Indesign or if it's possible that our office PCs are the culprit, they are getting a little old. 

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I'm still testing without your font - and ANY change to the main TextFrame or the small one on the left - nudging, moving - brings back the text...

 

You have BALANCE RAGGED LINES in the ParaStyle - just turing it ON and OFF "fixes" your text...

 

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Perhaps it may be user error, but when I removed the box and clicked the ragged lines on and off it didn't fix the text on my end. 

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I'm trying your file on a PC and 18.3 - your file is opening as [converted] so it must be an older version?

 

Can you try IDMLing? Export as IDML, open and save with a new name - maybe file is somehow corrupted - but is getting "fixed" when opened in "latest" version and different platform? 

 

And if it helps - try doing Save As with a new name AT LEAST at the end of a day - housekeeping and backup. 

Save alone just adds Undo history to the file - that's unaccessible when you close the file. 

 

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Ah, yeah we use CS5 on our computers. I'll try saving under a new name at the end of the day, it could be possible the file gets corrupted. Our computers have a tendancy to power off randomly through the day as we work on Indesign.

 

Thank you for your help!

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Are those power cuts or crashes? 

 

Either way - it's very bad. In case I have to do cold restart - I always boot in "dos" mode and run chkdsk to fix potential errors. 

 

As you work on windows, I would suggest the following:

  1. do Ctrl+S every 15-20 minutes - or whenever you do a lot of changes,
  2. switch to folder with your file - keep it selected - hit Ctrl+C then Ctrl+V - Windows will take care to number copies.
  3. At the end of a day - delete midday copies - leave only those with most important changes and the last one for the day. 
  4. Just in case - do Save As with a new name - for housekeeping and as a backup.
  5. Next day, use it as a source, work for a while, then do a new Save As for that day and then go to 1.

 

If like you've said, you've a lot of crashes, when you do 4. - do also IDMLing - as an extra backup and use it the next day as a starting point. 

 

Drives - hdd or ssd - are cheap as chips - and waaaaaay cheaper than starting from scratch... 

 

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Sep 21, 2023 Sep 21, 2023

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I'd say it's a crash, we get error screens on our Macs detailing that the computer had crashed and will take a moment to restart. 

Would you say the templates could be corrupted? We've been working off of the same template for our bussiness calenders and it seems to be the only page we have this issue with. 

 

Thank you for the saving advice! I will try that to keep the file from corrupting as I work. For now, we save everything  onto a cloud instead of a hard-drive.

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Sep 21, 2023 Sep 21, 2023

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I know nothing about Macs, sorry - only PC. 

 

Are you trying to WORK on the cloud storage or use it purely as a backup - and your production files are stored locally? 

 

And by "template" you mean INDT file or you use regular INDD file as a "starting point"? 

 

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Sep 21, 2023 Sep 21, 2023

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We make an InDesign document that is blank, besides for the page numbers at the top, a few photo boxes and our paragraph styles, to keep as a "base" for the page. We open it off of the cloud and save the document under a new name on our desktop to edit and place community calanders/bussiness calanders on. It saves us from creating a page completely from scratch. 

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Sep 21, 2023 Sep 21, 2023

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I just had a look to your file and it seems that the “no break” attribute has been applied to a part of the overset text.  So, I selected the whole text, applied “no break” everywhere, then removed it and it seems to work:

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