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Hi Everyone, I would appreciate if someone could help me with this.
Project is in arabic and english. This was done by another designer. When i export this to pdf, in a line of texts, the words in arabic after the first word goes missing.
Text are in green. I tried changing some letters to red, it showed the complete word. But changing it to all red will have the same problem.
The red and green have the same character style settings. The paragraph styles, there are greps. I was testing and removed some greps, it was a success but the format got broken.
Any advice on how to go around with this without removing the greps?
Below are the greps and export settings.
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What are your versions of InDesign and Windows?
I know that some ME InDesign versions have a problem of some text disappearing when exporting to PDF but I'm not familiar with the details of this issue. Some ME users will probably chime in.
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Windows 11 and Indesign is CS6 version 8.0.
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Windows 11 and Indesign is CS6 version 8.0.
By @Pratoxx_Kilabos
I assume you have reasons not to upgrade to the current version?
Can you at least install InDesign 2025 as a free trial (I think it's 14 days) and see if the issue is fixed there?
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I can't. I'm using a company pc.
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Not sure why - but I'd copy the text to a play text editor like Notepad to Notes or something, remove the greps if possible - and replace the text with the clean non-greped text from Notepad.
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Two of those regular expressions apply the character style "A in E" which I am 110% certain means "Arabic in English." This is fairly standard practice - the English paragraph style specifies DIN Next LT Pro, a font that contains zero Arabic characters. The "A in E" character style would specify a font that supports Arabic; I'm guessing Adobe Arabic with the size bumped up a few points. It would also specify something like "Language: Arabic" and "Character direction: Default." Or it might not specify Arabic at all, and just say "Character direction: Right-to-left" which probably works here but can cause problems with digits, punctuation, and other non-letter glyph types.
My hunch is that the OP is opening their designer's work in an English version of InDesign. Probably the suggestion by @sak95456465 to change default composer (that is, changing to the World-Ready Composer) would resolve @Pratoxx_Kilabos 's issue. It's not overtly specified in the Paragraph Style, and there's no way to specify it in the Character Style, so the real mystery to me is: why is the Arabic rendering correctly onscreen in InDesign at all?
@Pratoxx_Kilabos , if the above suggestion to change the Composer to the World-Ready Composer in your paragraph style doesn't work for you, feel free to post your file, or to contact me via private message so I can offer you a way to send me that file without posting it for everybody on the Internet to download.
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The composer is already world-ready. Regarding the file, it is hard to share this since it is from my work, would it be okay i'll just screen shot both para and char style? Worth noting is that this only happens in this line across all chapters. All other arabics is ok. Also this happens is there are two word arabics. If the text is english. It's okay. I also tried changing to arial.
Two of those regular expressions apply the character style "A in E" which I am 110% certain means "Arabic in English." This is fairly standard practice - the English paragraph style specifies DIN Next LT Pro, a font that contains zero Arabic characters. The "A in E" character style would specify a font that supports Arabic; I'm guessing Adobe Arabic with the size bumped up a few points. It would also specify something like "Language: Arabic" and "Character direction: Default." Or it might not specify Arabic at all, and just say "Character direction: Right-to-left" which probably works here but can cause problems with digits, punctuation, and other non-letter glyph types.
My hunch is that the OP is opening their designer's work in an English version of InDesign. Probably the suggestion by @sak95456465 to change default composer (that is, changing to the World-Ready Composer) would resolve @Pratoxx_Kilabos 's issue. It's not overtly specified in the Paragraph Style, and there's no way to specify it in the Character Style, so the real mystery to me is: why is the Arabic rendering correctly onscreen in InDesign at all?
@Pratoxx_Kilabos , if the above suggestion to change the Composer to the World-Ready Composer in your paragraph style doesn't work for you, feel free to post your file, or to contact me via private message so I can offer you a way to send me that file without posting it for everybody on the Internet to download.
By @Joel Cherney
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I'm guessing, this was caused by converting from a newer version of indd. I recreated the exported para style but the texts now in a wrong format. And it prints.
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Only affects if the said arabics is in the end part of the sentence.
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I successfully printed by using another style. But i do not know if this will affect the arabic format.
This the style settings comparison.
The body text/No indent/SA has settings that i cannot find from the style options. I can't verify is these are important.
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Unfortunately, just looking at the paragraph style definition doesn't tell us all that much. For instance your style "Btext New" is Based On "Note" and so we don't really know what style settings are applied there. But even if we did, I still wouldn't know if those style settings are actually applied, right? Or what manual overrides (induced by you or induced by conversion) might be applied to the Arabic text.
I think you are probably correct when you say that exporting IDML from a newer version of InDesign and working on it in CS6 is the source of this issue. And using a different paragraph style seems to resolve at least some of the issue - but just looking at your screenshot in your post where you said "I recreated the exported para style but the texts now in a wrong format" it's clear that this paragraph is currently marked as right to left. This can be seen from the position of the colon to the left, in ":Name in Arabic."
There are scripts that you can use to apply things like right-to-left or left-to-right paragraph dir..., even if you're on an English-only install of CS6. You might try to apply LTR direction to your ":Name in Arabic" paragraphs, but honestly - I can't really advise you to do it. You're working on some kind of Arabic educational text for English readers, right? Without the right software, and apparently without complete knowledge of how Arabic script works in InDesign? That's a recipe for inducing critical errors in your curriculum. You really, really need your Arabic supplier (or some other competent person fluent in both Arabic and English) to be the last person who sees this thing before it goes off to print.
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Here is the para style that is where it is based off which is based off another and another and the last one is the same one that causes the bug.
Note:
Bo:
Body text/No Indent:
Comparison:
The problem with using a lowered version of indesign is that we can't check the settings like you said and we are restricted. This is the same as using script. We cannot download and install it, we will need time for people to verify the code and sometimes, in the end, gets denied.
Since i don't have choice now, i might as well just use the Btext new and compare it to the pdf author provided. The whole 100 chaps 600plus galley.
Thank you and thank you everyone for the help though but if ever you find a solution, I would really appreciate it. It would help me in the future if i ever encounter the same problem.
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which version of indesign? did you try to chagne default composer which I posted here?
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Indesign CS6 version 8. Composer is already World ready.