unable to delete object inside an anchored frame

[milko259349307s4y]

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hi all,

today indesign do not allow me to delete an object pasted in the anchored object (fig. 1.1)
I select the red arrow but when i press canc nothing happen.
this is the picture:

in the past there was no problem to delete it...

there is something i miss...

thx for your help

[BobLevine]

Are you sure you have it selected? To be sure, look in the layers panel.

[milko259349307s4y]

Hi Bob,
yes I'm sure.
If I select "Hide" from object menu the object disappear.
But I can delete it.

[milko259349307s4y]

If someone want to try to solve the issue,
pls download from here.

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

Anchoring a frame changes the behavior of editing within it. I've encountered several instances where I had to un-anchor the frame to make changes to its contents, but I can't bring any specifics to mind.

Looking at your screencap, though — are the objects in the frame grouped? I do recall additional limits on selection and editing with grouped elements in an anchored frame.

[milko259349307s4y]

Yes, object in anchored frames are grouped.
But normally this is not a problem.
Maybe, as Mike said, the object is corrupted.
Thx

[Mike Witherell]

It appears to be corrupt. An export/reopen to and from IDML did not help. Delete it and try to rebuild it. Maybe without the unnecessary anchoring.

[milko259349307s4y]

Thx Mike,
I already try to rebuild (but I need the obj to be anchored in the text frame).
Sometimes works and sometine not.
This is a new document test:
same problem with the left anchored frame but not with the right anchored frame.

sorry for my english.

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

Something strange ... it can only be deleted AFTER extracting this group from the InLine state...

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

It's not possible to delete marked objects - not only the arrow but Rectangle can't be deleted as well:

But Image inside the Rectangle - can be deleted.

[Willi Adelberger]

Could it be that the anchored frame is covered with anoother frame with no color? Have a look into the layer panel to proof it.

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

Could it be that the anchored frame is covered with anoother frame with no color? Have a look into the layer panel to proof it.

By @Willi Adelberger

No, there is no problem in selecting it.

[Peter Spier · Accepted solution]

I was able to delete the rectangle by cutting the group and pasting back onto the page outside the text frame, then selecting the rectangle and deleting it.

That's a pretty complex structure -- grouped image and rectangle anchored into a text frame, and I was able to reproduce the problem in a new file. I'mnot sure why this happens as I was able to change other properties of the rectangle but not delete it, but I think it is because it is grouped and anchored -- can't ungroup it while anchored or delete the image either.

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

I was able to delete the rectangle by cutting the group and pasting back onto the page outside the text frame, then selecting the rectangle and deleting it.

That's a pretty complex structure -- grouped image and rectangle anchored into a text frame, and I was able to reproduce the problem in a new file. I'mnot sure why this happens as I was able to change other properties of the rectangle but not delete it, but I think it is because it is grouped and anchored -- can't ungroup it while anchored or delete the image either.

By @Peter Spier

You are right - deleting ONE of the items from TWO item group - would require InDesign to change the structure - it no longer be a Group - but either Rectangle or GraphicLine alone.

[Peter Spier · Accepted solution]

Ah! The problem is that there are only two objects in the group. Adding a third allows deletion of any one object.

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

Ah! The problem is that there are only two objects in the group. Adding a third allows deletion of any one object.

By @Peter Spier

Exactly!

When - after deleting one object from the multi-object group - there are still at least TWO objects - it will be OK as the group can "survive" - in only two-objects group - deleting one object would destroy Group - and InDesign can't do this.

[Peter Spier]

That's something that has irked me about Illustrator for years -- one object groups cluttering up the layers panel, but it would allow InDesign to handle this.