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Workflow advice please - Book files, InCopy, Story Editor, MS Word, PDF

Explorer ,
Apr 29, 2022 Apr 29, 2022

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I'm looking for some advice please as I'm sure there has been improvements since I last created a large publication and I've only used InCopy a little previously. Here's my workflow:

  • I'm creating a 70 to 100 page publication which I'm going to create as an InDesign Book with the chapters as separate InDesign documents
  • The content text will be supplied to me as 1 Word document
  • Proofing will done in the following ways: by PDFs which stakeholders will comment on (both whole book or separated in chapters), and by supplying a Word document for larger-scale copy editing
  • It is not an option to share an InCopy document with the stakeholders to make the larger-scale copy editing
  • When I work with copy to ensure consistency/grammar/spelling I find it easier to view just the text in the Story Editor

The advice I'm looking for is:

  • I know you can import PDF comments into INDD files. But how does this work if I've created a PDF of the whole book, do I need to extract the pages from the PDF into separate documents which replicate the INDD files?
  • For my workflow is there any benefit using InCopy, rather than InDesign and Story Editor, when it's just me viewing and using this? For example if I use InCopy, is it easier to export to a Word document?
  • If InCopy is the way to go would there be different InCopy documents for each chapter/INDD document or even INDD story?

Thank you in advance for any advice and recommendations you can give

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Apr 29, 2022 Apr 29, 2022

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When you import comments from a BOOK-PDF, you have to import them into the single INDD file. Upon import you are asked which pages are relevant for this import. InDesign detects the number pages relevant, so you have to insert the starting page and it will calculate the span from the comments.

If you work with InCopy, each story will be an independent document as multiple people can work on it at the same time.

I use InCopy very often even in cases when I am the only one. In my case the reason is that the stories are used in different documents, and text editing in InCopy is faster and easier than in InDesign. You have more text tools in InCopy, like Thessaurus, than in InDesign.

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Apr 29, 2022 Apr 29, 2022

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Thank you. I'll investigate how InCopy will be beneficial and how to set up further then

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Apr 29, 2022 Apr 29, 2022

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I would not (normally) use the InDesign Book feature for a 100 page document.

PDF is a finished format – I suggest you use InDesign to create your book.

Unless you, and your contributors, know InCopy well, I suggest to stick to Word for your MS.

Get the text approved and more or less finalised in Word by your contributors first, subsequently you can circulate a PDF of your InDesign document for "final" approval to the contributors.

Check with your Printer what kind of PDF they want normally it would be a PDF/X-4, single pages (not spreads), tick Use Document Bleed Settings and Crop Marks.

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Apr 29, 2022 Apr 29, 2022

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Thank you Derek, as an experienced Designer I will of course be creating my publication in InDesign as you say a PDF will be the finished format but also used for proofing.

The reason for using a book for this is to keep the chapters separate, keep file sizes down and allow two designer to work on different chapters simultaneously if necessary.

I always aim to get the text approved before design starts but in reality this doesn't always work and MS Word is requested for unforeseen content change.

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Apr 29, 2022 Apr 29, 2022

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I would still use the InDesign book file for management and organization. But create PDFs of each InDesign file of the book separately. That way you can import the comments from each PDF into each individual InDesign document.

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Great tip on the PDFs for proofing, thank you

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 07, 2023 Jun 07, 2023

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Do you know if there is a way to create multiple pdfs at the same time using the books feature in indesign?

 

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Jun 07, 2023 Jun 07, 2023

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You mean from each INDD file separately? Only through scripting. 

 

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Jun 07, 2023 Jun 07, 2023

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Thank you! Yes, I found a script to try out! I appreciate your comment.

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Jun 12, 2023 Jun 12, 2023

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Do you happen to have a script for this? Or point me to one?

The one I tried did not work out.

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Jun 12, 2023 Jun 12, 2023

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My ID-Tasker would do the job prefectly - and much more if you need - but it's PC only. 

 

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Jun 12, 2023 Jun 12, 2023

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@Robert Tkaczyk  - Bummer! I'm on a mac. Thanks anyway! 

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Jun 07, 2023 Jun 07, 2023

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There is a WordsFlow plugin - helps to synchronise content between InDesign and Word - instead of using InCopy. 

 

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