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Footnotes: can these be set in a book's Style Source?

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Jul 21, 2020 Jul 21, 2020

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Hi all,

I'm trying to figure out how to set footnote styles that can be applied in a book's Style Source so that it inherits things like its Rule.

However, though I can save and apply paragraph and type styles, I haven't found a way to adjust footnotes across documents from the Style Source.

Is there a way to do this?
Also... I'm trying to figure out a way to have a bit more control over the appearance and typography, specifically, adjusting the space above the rule... can't quite figure this one out either. Probably just missing it...

Any help appreciated!

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Community Expert , Jul 21, 2020 Jul 21, 2020

Hi Turner:

 

You can set the space above the rule with Type > Document Footnote Options > Layout > Minimum Space Before 1st Footnote. Notice this is a minimum amount of space—if you need a consistent amount of space, I would define a baseline grid and be sure both body text and the first line of the footnotes are on the grid.

 

Oddly, I don't see any way to sync the footnote settings across a book. 😞

~Barb

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Have you looked at Type > Document Footnote Options > and seen the various footnote controls within the 2 tabs: Numbering and Formatting and Layout? Here is where you adjust the traditional horizontal rule over the footnotes.

If your main document has a Footnotes paragraph style set up; the Book panel can help that style be propagated across the other documents within the overview of the Book panel.

Mike Witherell

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Thanks Mike - yes, I've done that. I guess I was expecting more typographic control... 

I have a Footnotes style set up (a few, actually), which update fine, but the Footnote Options don't seem to carry across synced documents.

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Hi Turner:

 

You can set the space above the rule with Type > Document Footnote Options > Layout > Minimum Space Before 1st Footnote. Notice this is a minimum amount of space—if you need a consistent amount of space, I would define a baseline grid and be sure both body text and the first line of the footnotes are on the grid.

 

Oddly, I don't see any way to sync the footnote settings across a book. 😞

~Barb

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Thanks Barb!
Bummer about syncing. Surprising, actually... looks like I might have to find a workaround.
I'm also finding that footnote indicators don't show up in search! Yikes.

 

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Hi turner111,

you also have to care of the footnote start number in every single InDesign document of your book file.

Another thing that is crying for automation!

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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And we did not talk about endnotes yet…

( sigh! )

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Lol.... haven't gotten to those yet, but I will 😉

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I'm also finding that footnote indicators don't show up in search! Yikes.

Are you trying to locate the footnotes via the Find/Change dialog box? Use the Text tab and ^F. (Or GREP tab, and ~F)

 

~Barb 

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Thanks Barb-

Yes, trying to search via Find/Change. Where to I add the ^F ?

 

cheers

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Edit > Find/Change:

 

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There is a 2010 thread "Synchronising Footnote Options" over on InDesign Secrets with a Javascript that Jongware wrote and explains for copying the footnote options from one ID file to another. He updated the link in 2016 and it still works -- as does the script.

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