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How to left indent a 3 columns splitted text maintaining gutters?

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The idea is indent a 3 column text that belongs to a frame.

For the moment the text is splitted in 3 columns.image.jpg

 

Trying a table offers a problem as it is not possible to use columns in cells?

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How to left indent a 3 columns splitted text maintaining gutters?

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The idea is indent a 3 column text that belongs to a frame.

For the moment the text is splitted in 3 columns.image.jpg

 

Trying a table offers a problem as it is not possible to use columns in cells?

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I don't think I understand the question. If your gutters are defined by your margin guides and layout adjustment is enabled, you should be fine.

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Hi,

Do you mean you are trying to create a text frame with 3 columns, but the first column only has a large left indent?

Can you confirm the version of the software and the operating system you are using.

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Feb 19, 2020

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Hi, yes, exactly.

Same column width must be preserved but the whole thing indented by the left.

 

If the left indents is increased the 3 columns adopt the new measure. 

 

Thanks.

 

Mac Catalina 10.15.1

Indesign 2020 / 15.0.1

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I see no option to do this with one text frame other than to move the headlines to a table cell.

Just like that:

 

Headlines-in-TableCells-SpanAllColumns.PNG

The trick:

1. Set the paragraph with the table to span all columns.

2. Align the paragraph with the table to Align Right.

3. Increase the width of the table and it will expand out of the text frame on the left edge.

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Of course an anchored text frame containing both headlines would do the same.

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Uber, thanks, you resolved the thing.

But... sorry, could't understand the procedure.

The steps...

 

 

We created a table for the two heading and later pasted the 3 column splitted text frame but the result is very poor compared with your solution... control of text is difficultScreen Shot 2020-02-19 at 6.34.01 PM.png.

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A table basically is a special character that can live in its own paragraph.

See the paragraph return after the table. Select this and do the formatting for paragraphs.

Right aligned and span text frame columns.

 

You could do a one cell table or a table with one column and two cells if you like.

 

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Uwe Laubender

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We cannot replicate your solution. It shows a single table...

Please, Uber, could you please explain again the steps.

Also, is just 1 table + return + text frame?

Or 1 table for the whole thing?

 

Your drawing shows an extension of the table with 3 columns perfectly defined with the vertical lines.

In our case the ttext was splitted insted of spanned as you suggested.

Also, the rigth align is not for text... 

 

Sorry for your time and thanks,

 

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Why not just add inset to the left of the text frame, as in this example?

Screen Shot 2020-02-19 at 11.26.44 PM.png

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Feb 20, 2020

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Hi Scott,

thanks for this, then I'd suggest to combine your solution with my table so that the text in the table cell is better to reach and to edit. Below the structure of applied paragraph styles:

 

3ColumnTextFrame-StandOutText-Table-Solution.PNG

 

Here the IDML file to download from my Dropbox account:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/26rjdd2tag71zun/TableSolution-StandOutText-ThreeColumnTextFrame-2020.idml?...

 

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Uwe Laubender

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I wasn't thinking about including the header text, which is obvious now that I look at it. Otherwise why require the indent.

 

Perhaps a split column with added Outside Gutter. Here I used half an inch. Yes, that also adds half an inch on the right side of the text frame. Solution: Make the test frame half an inch wider.

Screen Shot 2020-02-20 at 1.34.35 AM.png

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Hi Scott,

ah. A new variant. Thanks for that!

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Yes, we have two solutions.

Perhaps the Scott procedure is fastest as it avoids to combine table and text.

 

Unfortunately, his solution shows problems:

a) adds a gutter space to the right (this is the default: gutter is the same for both sides and cannot be modified) and the frame extends outside the layout margins;

b) the new frame cannot be inserted in the flow of text (otherwise the right white space –righideal.jpgt gutter– will occupy too much space).

 

 

 

 

 

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