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InDesign interprets backtick as apostrophe

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Jan 24, 2021 Jan 24, 2021

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I was writing some GREP styles for highlighting text in quotes in a different colour, and I noticed that InDesign sees the backtick (or grave accent, character code 96) as an apostrophe (character code 39).

I also checked this using the Find/Change function with an apostrophe and sure enough it was finding backticks as well as apostrophes in the search, both with text and GREP settings. I even tested different fonts.

What's really weird is that if you put in a backtick as the search term, it finds only backticks, not apostrophes.

I can't find out anything to explain this bizare behavior so was hoping someone could help.

Thanks.

 

 

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Adobe Employee , Feb 07, 2021 Feb 07, 2021

If you want to just find the Straight apostrophe ' without finding the backtick `, then you can put ~' in the Find field.

If you want to find any apostrophe (either Straight or Curly) without finding the backtick, then you can put ~'|~[|~] in the Find field.

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Jan 25, 2021 Jan 25, 2021

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Hello again. I'm still perplexed by this behaviour and wish I could find out more about it. Whether it is a bug or some hidden behaviour, or just something I'm missing. So basically, in Find/Change, with apostrophe 39 as the search term, it finds backticks code 96. Why?

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Feb 07, 2021 Feb 07, 2021

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If you want to just find the Straight apostrophe ' without finding the backtick `, then you can put ~' in the Find field.

If you want to find any apostrophe (either Straight or Curly) without finding the backtick, then you can put ~'|~[|~] in the Find field.

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Feb 09, 2021 Feb 09, 2021

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Thanks. That worked. I placed the ~ on the the straight apostrophe and that stopped that style being applied to the backtick.

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Jan 17, 2021 Jan 17, 2021

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En Buscar/Cambiar, los puntos suspensivos separables se cambiaban por puntos suspensivos en bloque inseparable con ^e. Desde la última actualización de InDesign, los puntos suspensivos en bloque inseparable se identifican con ~e, pero resulta que el programa busca todos los conjuntos de tres matrices seguidas, no solo lo tres puntos suspensivos, por lo que no vale para realizar el cambio.

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Jan 17, 2021 Jan 17, 2021

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<moved from download&install>

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Jan 21, 2021 Jan 21, 2021

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En Buscar / Cambiar, los puntos suspensivos separables se cambiaban de una sola vez en todo el documento por puntos suspensivos en bloque inseparable con ^ e. Desde la última actualización de InDesign, los puntos suspensivos en bloque inseparable se identifican con ~ e, pero el programa busca todos los conjuntos de tres matrices seguidas, no solo lo tres puntos seguidos, por lo que hay que realizar los cambios de uno en uno, no se puede hacer en todo el documento de una sola vez.

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Jan 18, 2021 Jan 18, 2021

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En Buscar/Cambiar, los puntos suspensivos separables se cambiaban por puntos suspensivos en bloque inseparable con ^e. Desde la última actualización de InDesign, los puntos suspensivos en bloque inseparable se identifican con ~e, pero resulta que el programa busca todos los conjuntos de tres matrices seguidas, no solo lo tres puntos suspensivos, por lo que no vale para realizar el cambio.

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Feb 10, 2021 Feb 10, 2021

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En la última actualización se ha solventado el problema. Ya vuelven a cambiarse los tres puntos por puntos suspensivos con ^e

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Feb 09, 2021 Feb 09, 2021

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Quote: << What's really weird is that if you put in a backtick as the search term, it finds only backticks, not apostrophes. >>

 

These are actually 2 different characters with 2 different character codepoints. Search terms are literal and specific, and generally won't find lookalike glyphs.

 

I noticed you refer to the glyphs with the ACSII character codes, 0039 (typographer's apostrophe) and 0096 (reverse single prime). The term "back tick" refers to a specific character used in computer programming, not as a formal glyph in typesetting and InDesign text: although they do look the same to the naked eye, they perform different functions and are interpreted by technologies in different ways.

 

If you're using OpenType fonts in InDesign, it's best to ditch the ASCII method of referencing glyphs because all OpenType fonts are based on Unicode character encoding (each glyph has a different codepoint number from ASCII's). Each glyph codepoint is interpreted by various technologies, such as HTML websites, EPUBs, accessible PDFs, search engines and content management systems. Their precise meaning is critical.

 

Unicode glyphs that look like a "back tick" include:

  • Straight apostrophe = Unicode 0027     '
  • Typographer's apostrophe = Unicode 2019    
  • Modifier letter vertical line = Unicode 02C8     ˈ
  • Prime = Unicode 2032    
  • Reverse Prime = Unicode 2035    
  • Grave Accent = Unicode 0060     `

 

Learn more about Unicode at http://www.unicode.org

View the Unicode code charts at http://www.unicode.org/charts/

 

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Thank you RaviKiran!

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