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It is possible to generate different captions?

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The menu seems to accept only one solution: above/below/right/left.

 

What about this kind of documents where more options are required? This is possible?  Screen Shot 2020-04-08 at 8.15.20 AM.png

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The menu seems to accept only one solution: above/below/right/left.

 

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Okay, I'll bite...where else would they go?

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Mr Levine, thanks for your time.

 

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PD. I should appreciate your reply plenty of humour and slang, as very «nice», for this cruelests months, quoting T.E. Eliot.

 

Of course the Most Valuable Participant in this forum, answering with questions, without intention, of course,  perhaps is killing a thread that is a real problem for ID users. In another post you mentioned that Indesign is not the right tool for making catalogues (?) and now your opinion is that ID is not appropriated to make academic stuff as papers or magazines. (?).  Perhaps you could advise us on both situations about the most valuable software to solve our little problems. Please, not FrameMaker... not Quark, for the moment.

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You said captions can only be left, right, top and bottom.

Again, I ask you...where else would you put them?

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The idea is to have styled captions for different pieces (Tables, graphs, etc), as shown in the example, that shows two classical modalities of caption.

 

ID only offers one choice. (In four flavours, yes, but only ONE cup).

In academic stuff, specially, and surely in other complexes pieces, the use of generated captions is not limited to one choice, as show in the example.

 

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I answered via email so I never saw your screenshot. But as already pointed out...how should InDesign know what you want? Put them all in the same place and then move them around.

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That's the point.

 

ID perhaps, if I am right, has not choices for generate options: just one.

In many jobs it is necessary to have options. Like having styles.

 

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Hi,

how would you decide if a caption is above or below an image?

Is there a common rule for a specific design? If yes, this could be scripted. If not, how should InDesign know?

 

And: You always can move a caption around or rotate it after the caption was added.

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Uwe, 

 

It is decided by publishing rules. For example, here, tables have captions above, graphs below.

Mean: here, for me, ID only have one choice for generate captions: is  like having styles...

Once decided it is only one option (four locations, of course) but only one.

 

I couldn't create a second method. Just manually.

 

The idea is apply a shortcut to each generated caption, as the layout requires. For the moment the default is only one position for a shortcut and pre-established preferences.

 

Thanks.

 

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The Caption Setup dialog allows you to specify an offset. With some trial and error, making this a negative amount you can position the caption on top of the image. What the Caption Setup dialog is lacking is the ability to apply an Object Style at the same time. However, you can do this in a separate step and the text insets and vertical alignment of the object style can give you another level of control over how the caption is placed relative to the image. If you choose to generate the captions to their own layer, you can select all the contents of this layer and apply the object style as a second step. 

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Hi Nigel,

yes. But what our OP needs is a rule-based approach that works in one go:

Tables: Caption above

Figures: Caption below

 

Hm. Are the tables placed table graphics?

Or InDesign tables?

 

With InDesign tables the auto caption feature will not work at all.

 

FWIW: One could imagine a function that is reading out metadata and that is tying a object style based on keywords that are found in the metadata of a placed image or graphic.

 

A custom script is more flexible. It could position caption frames according to all possible rules one could come up with.

Also with a part of name of a graphic. If a placed graphic has "table" in its file name the caption would be placed above, if the placed graphic has "figure" in its file name the caption would go below. Etc.pp.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Mr Laubender, 

 

It is exactly the point: just to have many captions options, not just one.

 

something like paragraph/character/object styles!
for the straight citizen thinking in scripts is out of question. 

thanks.

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