Paragraph style error in one entry of TOC

[muskoka lake]

I have the same Para Style applied on all Chapter Number lines in text. And a different style for the Chapter title. When I generate the TOC this one entry ends up in a different style. I have tried removing and retyping, tried paste without format, and all day with zero success.

It is as if the two styles become one when making the TOC, but I purposely made two different styles. I the first is not included in the TOC, the second has a numbered list as part of its TOC entry style with prefix of "Chapter"

The TOC entry style shows as correct when I check it in the TOC creation section. There are no character styles applied to either line in the body text. I hope someone has seen this before. I'm almost ready to give up.

[TᴀW]

Look carefully at your screenshot for Chapter 12. It ends with a forced line break, not a regular paragraph break. So, for this chapter, both the number and the title are, in effect, a single paragraph.

Change the forced line break to a paragraph break and the problem should go away.

HTH,

Ariel

[Barb Binder]

Hi @muskoka lake :

That one title doesn't accidently have a character style assigned, does it? 

~Barb

[vladan saveljic]

You should upload on dropbox, as FRIdNGE asked you before, the page of the toc and the page that contain Chapter Title 12 and share the link with us.

[Barb Binder]

Hi @muskoka lake:

It actually looks like you took a small step forward in the second screen shot, in that now "Chapter 12—" is no longer bold. If you don't want to share your file (and I am also happy to look at it on dropbox, if you are comfortable with that), then will you click on the words "Rodney and Ivan Together" on page 297 and show us a screen shot with both the paragraph and characters styles panel visible?

In the TOC, your first screen shot shows an extra tab between the text and the page number. I suspect that it is at the end of the subhead on page 301, before the hard return. Try deleting it and update the TOC.

...(1944 August 12) >>¶

~Barb

[Barb Binder]

Hi @muskoka lake:

One down, one to go!

In the first (new) screen shot, your cursor is on the first line of the title. Would you mind clicking on the second line "Rodney and Ivan Together" and then repost?

~Barb 

[Barb Binder]

Hi @muskoka lake:

Be sure to reply in the browser and not your email. Use the Insert Photos button at the top of your reply.

~Barb 

[Barb Binder]

Hi @muskoka lake:

Looking at the last screen shots... there is a character style applied to" Chapter Title Half Page". It's a nested character style called "TOC chapter name" and is assigned up to the first tab character. There isn't a tab character on the line, so it is impacting the entire paragraph. Why is that there? 

~Barb 

[Barb Binder]

You can certainly try starting over but I suspect the issue will still be there. At this stage of the game, there is some silly issue that we haven't discovered yet via your screen shots. I suspect we can find it in minutes if we can see the file. If you can share the file, great. If not, and if you would like us to continute to help, we need to continue with more screen shots.

1. Will you share the Update Table of Contents dialog box, expanded? 
2. And why do you have a Chapter Title style and a Chapter Title Half Page style? 
3. Pls check the chapter 11 or 13 titles in the body of the document. Is there a character style on the other Half Page Chapter Titles?

~Barb

[muskoka lake]

Help, still there. I tried that but it does not change the glitch in the TOC.

Are there any other options?

Would it help if I recreate the paragraph style and apply it to all chapters?

I have checked all other chapters. sorry I included the screennshot where I tried the Forced Line break, that was just desperation.

So at present have two lines with two different styles applied that work on all TOC except this one entry.

[FRIdNGE]

Hi!

Contact me in private "if you want to live"! [extracted from "Terminator" movie]

I will help you if you send me .idml file (TOC + Chapter 12 current page)

(^/)  The Jedi

[muskoka lake]

Sounds great to get the help, although the "if you want to live" scared me at first.

I am a newbie at ID so do not know how to extract just a page or just the TOC file. Do I copy and paste them into another file?

I see where to change the file type to idml but I do not know how to get just part of the file.

[FRIdNGE]

I just need a copy-paste of the text (TOC and current page) containing the part about the chapter 12, in a new InDesign file you will send me by email I'll give you in private!

[Eugene Tyson]

Why private? Please share. Could help others.

[muskoka lake]

thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately I am on a very limited bandwidth here 2mb/s and can not send large files from here. for some reason though i can drag and drop onto this wonderful site. So I will make another two screen shots, one of the problematic TOC entry and one of the text page. 

I see another glitch has crept in on the same area of the TOC. One of the tab leaders has run away, even though it has the same TOC entry style and I have cleared all overrides.

[muskoka lake]

No character style. I tried checking under the text box even to see if something was hidden there. All my attempts to fix this are making it worse. Now I have a runaway leader in the same section, even though it has the same TOC style as all the rest. It is the sae problem with that bolded entry. I tied a different style and all the rest reverted but that one did not. The style comes up the same but is not working. I tried regenerating the TOC too.

[muskoka lake]

Thanks Barb, you were right about the extra tab. that fixed that part of it.

I have tried to download Dropbox but the connection times out. So I will try to use the drag and drop here. thank goodness that works. 

When I copied and pasted the body text and TOC into a new file the Chapter 12 line in text was highlighted, and the " in the TOC was highlighted. Identifies the problem area I guess but does not give a solution alas.

 

 

Rodney and Ivan "

[muskoka lake]

Hi Barb, I am still trying to fix my TOC error. I think I found a clue but can't make it fix the problem.

When I put the toggle Highlighter on it does not find it. But I have found that the " Rodney and Ivan" text is in Bold Cond. as the style calls for it to be.It does not have a plus sign for an override. When I change it to Regular it shows an override and it is highlighted in orange. It does not change the TOC when I change the font from bold Cond to Regular.

But here is the mystery: when I go to Chapter 11  "One Stayed in Canada" it has the same style applied. but when I look in the Control Panel it says it is Regular. Something very spooky is happening with that Para Style.

[muskoka lake]

Yah! It was exciting to see that one problem disappear.

I made  the screenshot with the cursor on the line  "Rodney and Ivan." I can't see how to add it in this message. Drag and drop did not work, even when I reduced the image size for web. Attach is looking for a link. When I first posted there was an icon for a photo but not here. Do I need to post a new inquiry to be able to add the screenshot? I'm so sorry to be befuddled by such a simple thing.

[muskoka lake]

I will drive to town tomorrow and try to send from there. Internet is not working well here in the boondocks.

[muskoka lake]

 

[muskoka lake]

I posted the body text with Paragraph style showing. Here is the info for that style in edit mode.

 

[muskoka lake]

I removed the nested style. When I update or replace the existing TOC it does not change the error.

To begin with I tried to use a nested style to have the Chapter number line and the chapter name line be on one entry in the TOC. I think I gave up on that when someone on the forum suggested using a numbered list. That seemed to work great. I just left the Chapter number line out of the TOC entry and included Chapter as a prefix to the numbering.  Problem is still there though, should I start all over?

[Barb Binder]

1. Will you please share the Update Table of Contents dialog box, expanded (click the More Options button)? 
2. And why do you have a Chapter Title style and a Chapter Title Half Page style? 

~Barb 

[vladan saveljic · Accepted solution]

Your Chapter Title 11 "One Stayed in Canada" has a character style applied "Chapter 18/24" (why?) and your problematic chapter title 12 "Rodney and Ivan Together" has not character style applied.

That's the problem