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Problem with role mapping paragraph styles to tags, from InDesign to PDF.

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I am using InDesign 15.1.1 to create several accessible, tagged PDFs.

 

I have tagged every paragraph style correctly under the export tags for PDF (Edit all export tags > show: PDF), and I have left any list items and table of contents items with the default ‘Automatic’ tag.

 

I am exporting as an interactive PDF with ‘Create tagged PDF’ checked. 

 

Then when viewing the PDF in Acrobat Pro DC, in the Tags pane I have selected ‘Apply role mapping to tags’. This should ensure that in the tags pane in Acrobat, all my original paragraph style names are displaying as the tags that I have created. But this is not happening. I am finding that some of the tags are role mapping correctly, while several other tags are appearing incorrectly role-mapped with their original paragraph style names in place instead of the tags that I had assigned to them in InDesign.

 

There seems to be no logic to this. Why have some of my paragraph styles been role mapped correctly as per the tags I have created in InDesign and yet some styles have not? I am having to fix the role mapping, tag by tag in Acrobat which is a tortuous waste of time.

 

Is there a bug that can be causing this? I really need a solution as I have some very large documents to create as accessible PDFs.

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Problem with role mapping paragraph styles to tags, from InDesign to PDF.

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I am using InDesign 15.1.1 to create several accessible, tagged PDFs.

 

I have tagged every paragraph style correctly under the export tags for PDF (Edit all export tags > show: PDF), and I have left any list items and table of contents items with the default ‘Automatic’ tag.

 

I am exporting as an interactive PDF with ‘Create tagged PDF’ checked. 

 

Then when viewing the PDF in Acrobat Pro DC, in the Tags pane I have selected ‘Apply role mapping to tags’. This should ensure that in the tags pane in Acrobat, all my original paragraph style names are displaying as the tags that I have created. But this is not happening. I am finding that some of the tags are role mapping correctly, while several other tags are appearing incorrectly role-mapped with their original paragraph style names in place instead of the tags that I had assigned to them in InDesign.

 

There seems to be no logic to this. Why have some of my paragraph styles been role mapped correctly as per the tags I have created in InDesign and yet some styles have not? I am having to fix the role mapping, tag by tag in Acrobat which is a tortuous waste of time.

 

Is there a bug that can be causing this? I really need a solution as I have some very large documents to create as accessible PDFs.

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Update: this role mapping problem is occurring on every document I export as a tagged interactive PDF, no matter the size (i.e. from a small 12pp booklet to a large 125pp brochure). The first few pages of my exported document start off fine, with all the tags role mapped correctly in Acrobat, but then as the document progresses some of the tags start to break down with their tags not appearing and instead their original paragraph style names are displayed. I have tried exporting the PDF from my another Mac and I get the same result.

Today I have discovered something interesting: if I export just a few pages at a time then the role mapping is working correctly. The problem seems to occur when I export the full document – InDesign does not seem to be able to handle all the information correctly en masse.

Is this a known issue? Does anyone have a solution?

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Hi GreenRoof,

can you see a mutual characteristic in the paragraph styles where this does not work?

Perhaps the styles are based on others or something like that.

 

You said:

"…if I export just a few pages at a time then the role mapping is working correctly. The problem seems to occur when I export the full document …"

 

Yes, this sounds very much like a bug. You can report it at InDesign UserVoice:

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs

 

When done please come back here and share the URL for the report so that others can vote for fixing the issue.

 

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender

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Hi Uwe,

 

Thanks very much for your feedback.

 

I did already look for mutual characteristics, such as styles based on other styles, but there does not seem to be a common characteristic. Some of the paragraph styles which are based on other styles are role mapping correctly, while others are not, so I don't think that is the reason. The only common characteristic I can see is that the deeper you get into the brochure, i.e. where more paragraph styles come into play, the more the tags start to lose their role mapping. It is very odd, and there is no rhyme or reason to it. It is as if InDesign just cannot cope with processing the entire document properly, it just wimps out, which is pretty useless.

 

It is very frustrating after I've set up all the tags in InDesign to later find I need to manually fix them one-by-one in Acrobat.

 

Thanks for the link to user voice, I will report this as a bug. It is certainly bugging me! I will update here as per your suggestion.

 

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Potential InDesign bug has been reported to Adobe, awaiting feedback:

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs/suggestions/41230030-indesign-is-no...

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This has been voted as fixed, but to date the issue is not fixed. 

 

I did report the issue at InDesign UserVoice as a possible bug, but so far I’ve had no response from developers to that post, and no indication of the timescale for fixing it. 

 

In the meantime I’m still experiencing instability when exporting a tagged PDF from InDesign, with large parts of the document not role mapping correctly. I am having to workaround the problem by exporting my InDesign documents in sections and then stitch them together in Acrobat. 

 

Some indication that Adobe are looking into this would be reassuring. 

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