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»Radial« text setting?

Engaged ,
Jul 16, 2020 Jul 16, 2020

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Hi there!

Just wondering ...

Is there some proper way to do »radial« text setting with InDesign, like setting up some »bent baseline grid« and having a text flow from line to line finally? Or should I switch to Illustrator for that purpose? (Where things won’t be so much easier, I guess ...)

Thanks –
Klaus
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Community Expert , Jul 17, 2020 Jul 17, 2020

Well, that could be a compound path you first have to release it to single objects.

Menu Object > Paths > Release Compound Path

 

If you find a group, ungroup it first.

 

To detect what kind of object you have after pasting the paths go to the Layers panel and inspect your selection.

 

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Uwe Laubender

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Jul 16, 2020 Jul 16, 2020

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Hi Klaus,

I think you guessed right, this should be done with Illustrator.

In InDesign you have no way to do text wrap with text on paths.

 

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Uwe Laubender

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InDesign does have type on a path. As a work-around, you could make one path and step and repeat it, (or make a set of concentric circles) then paste long text into the top path and add the overset type to the other paths. Hiding the top path after loading the overset type will make it easier to select the next path and flow the text.

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Engaged ,
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Thank you, Luke!

Let’s assume I’ve just built up some very nice concentric »baseline grid« in Illustrator: I found not way to import that to InDesign so that I could use it there to follow your work-around suggestion 😞

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If you drew those paths in Illustrator, wouldn't you (assuming these are simple paths) likely copy n paste those paths to InDesign? Then, in InDesign, you would have to make them all type-on-a-paths; link/thread them together; then flow in your text. Not a quick process, but the effect is pretty cool.

Mike Witherell

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Engaged ,
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Thank you, Mike!

 

I tried copy&pasting before, but with all of those curved lines. Then, in InDesign, the Type-on-Line-tool won’t »snap« on anyone of them.

 

When I tried this with only one line at a time, it works.

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Hi Klaus,

after you pasted all that graphic lines to InDesign you could execute a script to add text on path to every graphic line and thread all the graphic lines to one single story. For that you have to select them one by one in the order you want to thread the text paths. See my script code here:

 

How to curve text within a paragraph
Correct answer by Uwe Laubender, Jun 05, 2018

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/how-to-curve-text-within-a-paragraph/m-p/9916712#M103738

 

Have fun!

 

Uwe Laubender

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Engaged ,
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I could get your script to work, Uwe, as long as it’s separate bows that I copy&pasted from Illustrator, each by each. As soon as it’s a group of two or more bows that has been pasted in, it won’t work 😞

It seems I would need to somehow ungroup those pasted bunch of bows. In InDesign that is, for I already ungrouped them in Illustrator.

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Klaus, it depends on your settings in, I think, Illustrator. In preferences, you can set it to AICB, and it should therefore copy simple paths that arent PDFed or overly grouped/compounded. With this statement, I will assume you have drawn the paths in Illustrator and they have no grouping, compounding, nor live effects, or else you have *expanded* their appearance.

 

Of course, a Laubender script is always a welcome addition!

Mike Witherell

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Hi Klaus,

the rules are the following:

You have to select graphic lines ( or graphic frames or text frames ), but not groups.

If you select graphic lines inside a group the script should work as expected.

 

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Engaged ,
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Well, unfortunately it doesn’t work for me.

 

Would be great if you could try to re-produce that issue by copy&pasting two simple line paths from Illustrator to InDesign in one step. I’d love to learn about how to deal with them in InDesign in order to make them suitable for your script.

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Well, that could be a compound path you first have to release it to single objects.

Menu Object > Paths > Release Compound Path

 

If you find a group, ungroup it first.

 

To detect what kind of object you have after pasting the paths go to the Layers panel and inspect your selection.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Wow, thanks a lot, that does the trick! I wasn’t aware of that »Release Compound Path« function.

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