Just want to see if I'm approaching this right since most tutorials show this without using the book function.
1) I want the heading for each chapter to be in the format "Chapter x - Chapter title". However, as shown in the image, I use 2 different fonts for the title page of each chapter. So how would I make this happen?
2) I did not use a paragraph or character style for these title pages. If I add one now, can I sync these between the different document files in my book? So far I have just made every chapter from a template and therefore it syncs easily with the book function
It'll take a little extra work since the book is already laid out, but this can be done. We can define multi-return blocks of type with a single "Paragraph Style", then use cheats to still keep our returns and define the entire block of type as a "single paragraph" for creating our Table of Contents listing.
For the purposes of this example, let's create a Paragraph Style of Chapter Header, a Character Style of Chapter Number, and type we want to put into the Table of Contents like:
and Ethel Mertz
This opens the Paragraph Style Options dialog box. If you look in the Style Settings: box, you'll see all the type attributes for where your cursor is placed in the second line. Change the label in the Style Name: edit box to Chapter Header, then click the OK button to define your new paragraph style.
Things aren't quite as easy here, because we have to manually enter all the type attributes for our new character style. Place your cursor in the dialog box's title bar and move it just below the Control Panel, then enter all the character attributes shown in the character attributes section of the Control Panel, as shown above. You'll need to enter all the correct character attributes to get the right results. When you match that exactly, go to the Style Name: edit box and rename it Chapter Number, then click the OK button to create your new character style.
We've done all the groundwork to get the result you're looking for; now let's put it to work.
and Ethel Mertz
Fred and Ethel Mertz
and Ethel Mertz
and Ethel Mertz
When you create your ToC, the entire paragraph — and both lines — will be included as one entry.
That applies your fix to one document/chapter of your book. To get the same results for all the rest, you need to open each one and first copy the styles to your chapter(s) by going to the Flyaway menu for your Paragraph Styles panel — the three lines at the upper-right of the panel — and selecting the Load All Text Styles... menu command, navigating your way to the first document/chapter you made these fixes for, and copying the styles to each new chapter. Then Lather-Rinse-Repeat the process above to make each listing the way you want it to be.
Not automatic, but a lot quicker to do than it took to read this and apply it to your first chapter.
This should get you where you want to be.
Thanks for the very thorough walk-through. Appreciate the effort.
Now I know how I can make it work.
At the same time, it makes me curious. There must a lot of people using all sorts of fancy chapter title pages etc. with the need to manually set things up in the TOC. I'll probably just do it the way that's described here, but it seems to me there must be other ways too. For instance, adding a character manually for it to become:
"Chapter number - Chapter title" instead of "Chapter number Chapter title"
Unfortunately, the proposed solution gives a lot of extra work because the character style is copied into the TOC.
I can see there are solutions that work for some and others get stuck with this, for instance here:
It will be ... by default.
But if that doesn't work for you, you can create another paragraph style, set up with the type attributes you'd want for your ToC listings, and apply that custom style to your ToC automatically when you create/update it. You can learn more about that here:
The juicy stuff about formatting ToC text starts about a third of the way down this help page.
Hope this helps you past the last bits of your issues,
Thanks again, I'll look into it over the weekend!
In my case, I actually think the easiest way would be to simply have the TOC linked to my chapter title pages and then for each just put in the text manually - but still have it as a variable ofc so it would be able to update when updating the book. Would be very nice if InDesign has such an option.
It sounds really helpful, I'll look into it over the weekend
Steps 1-3 are clear to me.
Step 4: I have made styles for my TOC but I can not see how to tell InDesign to number the chapter title lines in the TOC
Do you mean to somehow set the paragraph style used for these lines to add a variable in the beginning of each sentence?
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Good work so far.
Now, edit the Chapter Title TOC style to add the chapter numbers back in. You can also specifiy a character style for just the chapter numbers (mine is called Chapter Nos below and is set to blue and bold as an example).
More on setting up numbered lists: https://helpx.adobe.com/incopy/using/bullets-numbering.html