Splitting columns is causing the text to be out of order!

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I split my text into two columns but the text is now out of order -see how the left column content should be on the right-. What do I do? 

Hi honey620,

there could be an explanation for this behavior:

The story direction of the text frame is set to Right-to-Left. That would be typical for a text frame of a document with RTL text like you would need it with Hebrew or Arabic. You could tell if this is the cause if you select the frame and check the in- and out-ports of the frame:

 

Story direction left-to-right, the in-port is at the upper left, the out-port is at the lower-right:

LTR-InPort-UpperLeft.PNG

 

Story direction right-to-left, the in-port is at the upper right, the out-port is at the lower-left:

RTL-InPort-UpperRight.PNG

 

So in effect, if you do Span Columns to All you get the following results.

With story direction left-to-right:

SpanColumnsAll-LTR-StoryDirection.PNG

 

 

With story direction right-to-left:

SpanColumnsAll-RTL-StoryDirection.PNG

 

To change the story direction of the parent story of a selected text frame to LTR, use this script code written in ExtendScript (JavaScript) :

 

app.selection[0].texts[0].parentStory.storyPreferences.storyDirection = 
StoryDirectionOptions.LEFT_TO_RIGHT_DIRECTION;

 

How to save script code to a script file and to install that script file, see:

https://www.indiscripts.com/pages/help#hd0sb2

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Splitting columns is causing the text to be out of order!

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I split my text into two columns but the text is now out of order -see how the left column content should be on the right-. What do I do? 

Hi honey620,

there could be an explanation for this behavior:

The story direction of the text frame is set to Right-to-Left. That would be typical for a text frame of a document with RTL text like you would need it with Hebrew or Arabic. You could tell if this is the cause if you select the frame and check the in- and out-ports of the frame:

 

Story direction left-to-right, the in-port is at the upper left, the out-port is at the lower-right:

LTR-InPort-UpperLeft.PNG

 

Story direction right-to-left, the in-port is at the upper right, the out-port is at the lower-left:

RTL-InPort-UpperRight.PNG

 

So in effect, if you do Span Columns to All you get the following results.

With story direction left-to-right:

SpanColumnsAll-LTR-StoryDirection.PNG

 

 

With story direction right-to-left:

SpanColumnsAll-RTL-StoryDirection.PNG

 

To change the story direction of the parent story of a selected text frame to LTR, use this script code written in ExtendScript (JavaScript) :

 

app.selection[0].texts[0].parentStory.storyPreferences.storyDirection = 
StoryDirectionOptions.LEFT_TO_RIGHT_DIRECTION;

 

How to save script code to a script file and to install that script file, see:

https://www.indiscripts.com/pages/help#hd0sb2

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Information that would help us help you: Please tell us what operating system (exactly) you're running. Please tell us (exactly) what InDesign version you're using. 

 

Show us what the text looked like BEFORE you "split text into two column" (turn on Hidden Characters when you make a screen shot). Exactly what command did you use to split into columns?

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When you reply, please use the image icon to embed your images in the post, so other users don't have to download them to view them.

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I'm using a PC Windows 10, I have the most updated version of InDesign CC. after.JPGbefore.JPG

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Hi @honey620:

 

When you split one column into two columns, the text runs down the first column, and then down the second column. split.gif

 

If the columns are reversed, are you using a Middle Eastern version of InDesign, or did the text come from an ME version of InDesign?

 

~Barb 

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I'm not sure, how do I check for that?

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I copied the text from a Google Docs file, not another ID file.

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Hi @honey620 :

 

Actually, I can see that either the text is designated Middle Eastern or you have a Middle Eastern version installed by looking more closely at the screenshot that you posted of the paragraph panel. Directly under the left alignment button I see the left to right and right to left icons. Those don't normally appear in the English versions of the software.

 

Start by unsplitting, then change your paragraph composer from the World Ready Paragraph Composer to the Adobe Paragraph Composer. It's in the fly out menu from that same paragraph panel, top right corner. Resplit. Does that make a difference?

 

~Barb 

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Unfortunatly that did not work.

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If you have currently a Middle Eastern version of InDesign ie. English يدعم العربية, you may fix the issue by simply opening "Story" panel which can be found under Window > Type and Tables > Story.

Select the text frame in question and switch story direction as shown here…

story-direction.jpg

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@Zaid Al Hilali:

 

I was hoping you would see this! (And I had no idea those icons were in the Story panel in the ME version.)

 

~Barb 

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You nearly figured it out yourself up here Barb 😉

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Nearly! 😂 But still needed you!

 

~Barb

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