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The InDesign Application Frame gets stuck outside the screen area/behind menu bar

Explorer ,
Feb 19, 2019 Feb 19, 2019

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Every so often, since working on my current iMac (2017), my Application Frame in InDesign gets stuck on my second 32" Benq monitor. The top bar area sits just behind the menu bar. Once it's there, it's there. The accessibility to reposition the frame is now not possible. Even switching the Application Bar, the background frame is still stuck and cannot be moved.

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Surely, there must be a limit from stopping the Application Frame from running off behind the menu and off the top of the screen, or at least allow an interactive method in a dropdown menu to reset the Application Frame back within the frame of the monitor.

For the moment, the only way I have found to resolve this would be to 'Delete InDesign Preference file' (Shift+Control+Option+Command) on start-up and reapply my personal settings and workspaces.

After resetting, this crucial part of the frame is now visible.

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I'm running MacOS Mojave Version 10.14.3, on an iMac 27-inch 4.2Ghz Intel Core i7 running a second 32" Benq screen.
Currently affecting InDesign version 14.0.1 but it also occurred with previous versions too.

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Explorer , Nov 11, 2019 Nov 11, 2019

ANSWER FOUND: It appears it only affects users with two screens. If your displays are sitting side by side, ensure the second screen in the 'Display Arrangement' in System Preferences >> Displays, does not sit higher than the main screen - even though the second screen may sit higher on the desk. Keeping the second screen aligned or lower will avoid 'losing' part of a panel off screen.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2019 Feb 19, 2019

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Have you tried resetting your current workspace? Window > Workspace > Reset [current workspace] or use the Workspace menu at the upper right of your screen.

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Explorer ,
Feb 19, 2019 Feb 19, 2019

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Yes. It's not the Workspace. It only affects the Application Frame. Over the many months, as and when it happens, and if I have time, I try to investigate all options but nothing works apart from deleting the preference file. It's more annoying than anything else. This is more to highlight there is a glitch with the Application Frame if it doesn't sit quite right on the second monitor.

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New Here ,
Oct 11, 2023 Oct 11, 2023

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Thank you! This has been driving me nuts.

 

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New Here ,
Jan 05, 2024 Jan 05, 2024

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This worked for me! TY 

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Nov 11, 2019 Nov 11, 2019

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ANSWER FOUND: It appears it only affects users with two screens. If your displays are sitting side by side, ensure the second screen in the 'Display Arrangement' in System Preferences >> Displays, does not sit higher than the main screen - even though the second screen may sit higher on the desk. Keeping the second screen aligned or lower will avoid 'losing' part of a panel off screen.

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New Here ,
Jul 28, 2021 Jul 28, 2021

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I don't have 2 screens and it is doing it to me. If I have InDesign in full screen mode, it's fine, but I'm needing to have 2 windows open, one in InDesign and one picture window open so I can copy type from a picture into InDesign. I can make the window smaller from the side, but not the top, and the bottom is way off the bottom of the screen where I can' grab it to resize the window. I can't even see the application frame under the window panel to uncheck it. Has that moved with the latest version? I've restarted and reset the workspace which only lost my panels. Very frustrating!

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Participant ,
Dec 19, 2021 Dec 19, 2021

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@mag-man wrote:

…ensure the second screen in the 'Display Arrangement' in System Preferences >> Displays, does not sit higher than the main screen - even though the second screen may sit higher on the desk.


 

This worked for me. Thanks, @mag-man 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 14, 2022 Jan 14, 2022

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I have two screens but my "arrangment" in prefs is top and bottom, not side by side. 

It seems there is a "GAP" between them and sometimes the IND window gets sucked up into it, so i cant see the top of the window. i have to go into arrangment again and change it, to fix. Seems silly. Isnt there a simple key command to move window to center or fill monitor?

 

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Community Beginner ,
May 25, 2022 May 25, 2022

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I only have one screen, and have only ever had one screen, and the application window freezes in postion, and stiill does so after an Adobe up-date. Ive tried the solutions above but none work. If I persist trying to move the window everntiually it does after the 6th or 7th mouse click.  My answer has been to keep the window small, so I can refer to other things on the screen, am fortunate I have alarge screen. I wish Adobe would sort it out it is clearly a clitch.

 

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Participant ,
Feb 03, 2022 Feb 03, 2022

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Issue is also applicable on After Effects CC 2022. Moving secondary screen a bit down WORKS! Thank you!

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 20, 2022 Jun 20, 2022

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I know this post is over 2 years old but it was the answer for me when I was having the same problem today. Such a weird glitch with such an easy fix when you know how. Thank you very much!

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New Here ,
Feb 02, 2024 Feb 02, 2024

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This worked!

 

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New Here ,
May 26, 2023 May 26, 2023

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What a crazy solution - but it worked!!! 

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New Here ,
Aug 10, 2023 Aug 10, 2023

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Same issue with three monitors (includes my laptop scree).  Followed the instructions on this thread and it worked.  I rearranged my top two full monitors side by side to my laptop monitor in the Display/Arrange settings and was able to see the top of the interface.  I've been trying to fix this for a couple of years and couldn't find any on YouTube.  Thanks everyone.

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Explorer ,
Jun 26, 2023 Jun 26, 2023

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This answer is a temporary fix, and not a solution. InDesign (Adobe) needs to accommodate the users with two screens. Not the other way around. I have a Macbook and 2 monitors. It is not possible to arrange my screens so InDesign works. Photoshop avoids the issue by making it a bit more difficult to move the window to another monitor. Photoshop makes you aware you are moving your window. 

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Community Expert ,
Jun 30, 2023 Jun 30, 2023

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Hi @susanmoulton , You can script the bounds of the active layout window relative to the main monitor. I use this to set the position of the active layout window, or the application frame if it is active, to position the window at 90% of the screen’s available width and height:

 

//the horizonatal and vertical percentage of the screen to fill, change as needed
var hScale = .9
var vScale = .9
var x = 50;
var y = 0;
var sw = $.screens[0].right;
var sh = $.screens[0].bottom;
var w = Math.round ((sw*hScale)-x);
var h = Math.round ((sh*vScale)-y);
app.activeWindow.bounds = [sh-(y+h), x, sh-y, x+w]

 

 

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After

 

Screen Shot 1.png

 

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Explorer ,
Jul 11, 2023 Jul 11, 2023

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Again, This is not a fix. This is a workaround and I am not going to run a script. It is much easier to hide my menu, move the window down, and show the menu again. 

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Community Expert ,
Jul 11, 2023 Jul 11, 2023

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Hi @susanmoulton , If by fix you mean a bug fix then you are right my script example does not fix any bugs. For bug fixes you need to post here:

https://indesign.uservoice.com/

 

The script simply shows how the active layout window can be positioned to any bounds relative to the main monitor. Scripting is like any other InDesign feature—you can choose to use it or not—but he window position could be set via key command attached to a script, or a single click, rather than 3 mouse moves.

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Explorer ,
Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

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2024 version and it still has this bug. This is so annoying. Just make it work like Photoshop. Or is this just some quirky thing specific to InDesign. It would be nice to know the status of this bug fix. Does anyone know where I can find bug being worked on? 

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New Here ,
Jun 30, 2023 Jun 30, 2023

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Ran into this issue just today, and found that my screens were a fraction off. That fixed the problem. Thank you!

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New Here ,
Aug 22, 2023 Aug 22, 2023

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It's insane we have to do that to make it usable. But big thanks to mag-man for figuring this out, it drove me nuts.

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New Here ,
Aug 31, 2023 Aug 31, 2023

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Hey, it has been almost 4 years since your comment, BTW I want to thank you because I've been searching for the solution abbout 3 months and it was turning me really mad...

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New Here ,
Oct 11, 2023 Oct 11, 2023

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I've had this trouble for a while now but it never used to happen - something about the newer OS or Adobe products? Its super frustrating. I like to have my 2nd monitor above my laptop, and I know I've posistioned them directly abutting, so this reply doesnt quite make sense. The OS should account for this. Nothing should ever get lost on screen - it should at least sho in one or the other. No restart recifies it. I'm literally in a no mans land right now -- its never been quite this bad. I cannot get it unstuck from the upper left corner of my Macbook Pro. Disconnecting the 2nd monitor and restarting doesnt work.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 11, 2023 Oct 11, 2023

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Hi @Jessie328557668sbm , Is the laptop display set as the main monitor—the application menu is on the laptop not the 2nd monitor?  Does trashing your Caches and preferences fix window positions? Did you try the JavaScript I posted above?

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