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P: Edit/Sync Photo changes the Capture Time.

Explorer ,
Dec 13, 2024 Dec 13, 2024

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I use Lightroom for culling through wedding photos, and as of yesterday's update, any time I increase or decrease the rating of an image (or apply any other kind of edit) it will add 4 hours to the capture time, therefore sending that photo to a random place later in the collection, only for me to find it again as I'm moving through. In fact, it just happened twice, as I edited a photo that had already been changed, and it added 4 more. What in the world??? This could prove to be exceptionally annoying.

 

Photos are syncing.

 

LR version 14.1

MacOS 14.7.1

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Adobe Employee , Dec 13, 2024 Dec 13, 2024

We've opened a ticket for the Classic Team to investigate this behavior. 

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Adobe Employee , Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

Greetings all, 

 

A new update for Adobe Photography Products has been released.  The LrC 14.1.1 update contains an update for this issue. 

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

 

Thank you for being so patient.

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New Here ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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I am having a similar problem.  Here is my workflow to recreate the problem:

 

1.  Take photo with iphone

2.  Import photo into Lightroom app on iphone (v10.0.2)

3.  Open Lightroom Classic (14.1 release).  Let photo sync into Lightroom Classic.

 

Lightroom goes into a continuous sync process whereby every few minutes it is syncing a new capture time (plus 5 hours) via a metadata change to the version in the cloud. The date change syncs to Lightroom and the process continues.  The only way I have found to stop it, other than turning off syncing, is to open Lightroom Desktop and delete all the "synced and backed up" photos from the cloud.  Then go back into Lightroom Classic and use the "Revert Capture Time to Original" command under the Metadata menu.

 

Here are a few screenshots.  I took a photo of the time on my Macbook screen at 9:54 am.

 

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Participant ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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Hello John,

I suspected it was an issue/feature/bug with Lightroom. I have paused the sync. Is there a way to turn this off or is it better to just keep it paused? Also, I really don't want to take up all this storage so is there a way to see what photos are synched? 

Thanks!!

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Participant ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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That's the behavior I see as well. It happens w/some and not all. Very weird.

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Participant ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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Here is another issue of which everyone should be aware!! It puts a Reject Flag on photos that have been deflagged or rated. This is random, but I've come across this a handful or more of times in the last week.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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In the Lightroom Queen forum, there are offsets of +20 and +18 hours. I wonder if this is a bug in the LR Cloud servers, where the local time of the server is accidentally used instead of UTC. Presumably Adobe has severs located across the world (e.g. with Amazon Web Services), which would explain the variation in offsets.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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Windows user here. In LrC, I added some key wording on old vacation pics the other day. Some that were already synced had capture times changed by 75 hours (3 days, 3 hours into the future). Others by 80 hours, and others yet by 96 hours.

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New Here ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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Lately, I've noticed that when I edit a photo in the develop module, any editing causes the image to move to the end of the film strip. I have Sort by: Capture Date set in the Library module. When I switch back to the Library module to confirm that sort setting, the image is still at the end of the film strip. If I change sort to File Name, it appears in the right place, but back to Capture date it moves back to the end.

 

It seems that editing changes the capture date? (confirmed by going to Metadata>Edit Capture Time... and seeing the original capture date/time is the time of the last edit).

 

This isn't how it used to work, and certainly not desireable behavior. Have I changed a setting somewhere? How do I make this stop?

 

I'm using Lighroom Classic 14.1 on MacOS 15.1.1. I've attached a grab of the Library Metadata panel that shows the "Date Time Original" is now not original.

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New Here ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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In meiner Kamera ist Datum und Uhrzeit korrekt eingestellt. Nach dem Import in Lr-Classic ist noch alles ok und die Uhrzeiten sind identisch mit jenen der Kamera (Aufnahmezeit). Sobald ich die Bilder mit LR (Cloud) synchronisiere, verändert sich teilweise Datum und Uhrzeit. Das wird wieder zurück auf Lr-Classic synchronisiert und verändert es auch dort auf FALSCHE Werte.

 

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Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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I'm starting to have this exact issue. Windows Explorer is reporting the correct capture time, but for some reason Lightroom has decided to throw SOME images (all taken in the same session) 5 hours earlier. It seems to be at random. I've tried reloading the metadata. That hasn't helped. I guess this extremely old issue has never been fixed. But has anyone found any way to fix it on the client side?

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Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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In just had to test this on my W11.
I created a new collection, and added 4 photos. One was a virtual copy and two was not edited.
At first when the album showed up in Lr, the date/time was correct.

 

After some time I discovered that the capture time had subtracted 2 hours for the first and 1 hour for the last. To further complicate this, the virtual copy capture time is 1 hour later than the NEF file.
The first was unedited NEF, and the last was an edited virtual copy. 
The two others - one edited and one unedited - showed the same time in Lr as in LrC.

Test-Sync-TimeShift.JPGexpand image.

 

Lightroom Classic version: 14.1 [ 202412062302-d2b56666 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en
Operating system: Windows 11 - Business Edition
Version: 11.0.26100
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 12
Processor speed: 3,6GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
CPU Utilisation: 6,0%
Power Source: Plugged In
Built-in memory: 16317,6 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 258,5MB / 8024,0MB (3%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16317,6 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 2735,1 MB (16,7%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 4550,3 MB
GDI objects count: 1847
USER objects count: 4563
Process handles count: 7047
Memory cache size: 571,6MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 17.1 [ 2098 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 417MB / 8158MB (5%)
Camera Raw real memory: -5123MB / 16317MB (-31%)
 
Cache1: 
NT- RAM:0,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, Combined:0,0MB
 
Cache2: 
m:571,6MB, n:0,0MB
 
U-main: 237,0MB
 
System DPI setting: 96 DPI
Desktop composition enabled: Yes
Standard Preview Size: 2576 pixels
Displays: 1) 2560x1440, 2) 1600x1200
Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No
 
Graphics Processor Info: 
DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (32.0.15.6590)
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto
Enable HDR in Library: ON
 
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: E:\LR-Catalog\Classic-V11-V12-v13-14-08-Prerelease\Classic-V11-V12-v13-14-08-Prerelease.lrcat
Settings Folder: C:\Users\arnol\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom
 
Installed Plugins: 
1) AdobeStock
2) DxO OpticsPro 10
3) DxO OpticsPro 10 Importer
4) DxO PhotoLab 5
5) DxO PhotoLab 5 Importer
6) Epson Print Layout
7) EPSON Print Plug-In
8) Find Duplicates 2
9) Flickr
10) HDR Efex Pro 2
11) Nik 6 HDR Efex
12) ON1 Effects 10
13) ON1 Enhance 10
14) ON1 HDR Standalone 2020
15) ON1 Photo 10
16) ON1 Portrait 10
17) Perfect Resize 9
18) Plugin Parameters
19) Plugin Parameters
20) Teekesselchen
 
Config.lua flags: 
 
Adapter #1: Vendor : 10de
Device : 2489
Subsystem : 13a6196e
Revision : a1
Video Memory : 8024
Adapter #2: Vendor : 1414
 
 
Regards
Arnold Hoddevik

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New Here ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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I can report a similar problem. I updated to v14.1 this morning and soon after noticed images "vanishing". I feared the worst for a while until I randomly rediscovered the images when scrolling back up through my Library. That's when I noticed that any file that had been synced since the v14.1 update had 10hrs subtracted from the capture date. I am in Brisbane, Australia, so I assumed it was a bug converting the times to GMT.  Incredibly frustrating. I've paused sync for now to kill the chaos. Hopefully a bug fix is provided asap!

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New Here ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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Following this as I'm having the same issue.  As soon as a photo is synced from Lightroom Classic to LrM, the time jumps by 4 hours.  I'm guessing this a bug that accidentally got programmed into the latest version.  Hopefully a new update will fix it.

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Explorer ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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Same issue here, just started with 14.1, new batch of photos, all was fine until photos started syncing.  Worse for me is that I have also have the photos in several plugins that I publish with.  Once I started publishing them I noticed that a publish in one group touched a need to republish in the other group, then I would republish and it appears the dates would get changed and then sync and round and round we go. I turned off syncing until this gets sorted out.  Most of the incorrect dates have been future dated.  Some of them even into next year for some reason.  So, off to reset all of my dates again in my latest batches, re-publish them and then wait for LR to fix this before I can start syncing again....

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 15, 2024 Dec 15, 2024

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Same issue for me.  Every photo I imported Dec 11th and 12th keeps changing dates. These are images from my iPhone (DNG and HEIC), using the "Add from device" feature in the LR app, and also Canon raw images, imported from SD card and added to a sync'd album in LR Classic.  I sat there Thursday evening editing, and watching them constantly shift order on the screen, wondering what was going on.  Then I noticed in the app, where they had synced, that I started having photos in January 2025.  I'm a time lord! Anyway, I left it for a while that night and they kept changing, the date changing every few minutes, moving all the way through February into March, until I shut down LR Classic.  I came back tonight, selected all of them in the All Synced Photographs collection and hit "Revert Capture Time To Original" under the Metadata menu, and they went back. But then they keep changing again and again if I have sync enabled.  Looks like I'm not alone.  

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Adobe Employee ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Greetings all, 

 

A new update for Adobe Photography Products has been released.  The LrC 14.1.1 update contains an update for this issue. 

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

 

Thank you for being so patient.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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New Here ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Not only did they fix the issue, but it also put the disrupted pictures back where they belong.  I want to thank Adobe for fixing this problem so quickly!

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Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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@darren257  Thanks for the confirmation!

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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@Rikk Flohr: Photography Thank you so much for the quick work! 14.1.1 seems to be working great!

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Explorer ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Also confirming 14.1.1 fixes this for me. Synced and edited a bunch of photos and their capture dates haven't changed. Thanks!

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New Here ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Thank you Adobe! I really apreciate!

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Participant ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Thanks Adobe, looks like 14.1.1 fixed the issue I was having too!

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Explorer ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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@Rikk Flohr: Photography I may have spoken too soon. I'm still seeing occasional photos jumping around. It's far less frequent than before the update, but not entirely resolved. I'm not sure if I can provide any additional helpful details.

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New Here ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Is disabling syncing on LrC enough, or do you need to disable it on the mobile app as well?

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Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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If you still see the problem after the update to Lightroom Classic 14.1.1, then pausing sync in Lightroom Classic is enough.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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New Here ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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I installed the update and no new images are impacted. The ones that have been impacted, remain in their faulty locations in my timeline though. Any pointers on how to solve this? I'm matching GPS data with my images and for that to work I need the capture time to be exactly right.

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