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P: Truncated fields and font glitches in Metadata panel

LEGEND ,
Oct 28, 2020 Oct 28, 2020

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The Metadata panel has some glitches in LR 10 / Mac OS 10.15.5 with the new fonts:

 

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And some fields don't display their last line (off by one error?):
 
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To reproduce this, try changing the width of the panel.
 
 
About the fonts in LR 10, the Lightroom Queen wrote: "[T]he font has been updated throughout the app, to use Adobe’s newly standards. While many formatting issues have already been identified and fixed, you might still find a few odd gremlins or spacing issues."
 
 
Here's another example, with a custom metadata tagset:
 
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Here's the definition of that tagset:
return {title = "Any Vision",id = 'anyvision',items = {
     {"com.johnrellis.anyvision.labels", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.landmarks", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.locations", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.map"},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.logos", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.faces", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.text", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.safeSearch", height_in_lines = -1},"com.johnrellis.anyvision.dominantColor","com.adobe.separator",{"com.adobe.caption", height_in_lines = -1},"com.adobe.GPS"}}
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LEGEND ,
Aug 21, 2021 Aug 21, 2021

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The recently released version 10.4 of LrC does not fix this issue, alas.  So I guess we’ll have to wait longer…hopefully it will be addressed at some point.

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Explorer ,
Oct 31, 2021 Oct 31, 2021

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LrC version 11.0 also does not resolve this issue!

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LEGEND ,
Nov 01, 2021 Nov 01, 2021

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It's most likely a simple off-by-one programming error, and it's frustrating that it hasn't been fixed by now.

 

It sure would be nice to see the entire contents of captions and titles. And users of my popular Any Vision plugin would like to be able to see the last line of the Labels field without having to click in it and use the arrow keys to move the cursor to the bottom:

 

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Explorer ,
Nov 01, 2021 Nov 01, 2021

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After installing LrC on a Windows machine, I discovered that the issue seems to have been resolved for Windows users, but not on the Mac side. 😞

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Participant ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

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Not only the last line gets hidden, but sometimes also the last word on the visible content, see attached screen shots.

(macOS Monterey)

Screen Shot 2022-01-31 at 17.37.54.png

Screen Shot 2022-01-31 at 17.38.13.png

Exceptionally annoying!

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

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This bug is **still* present: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-truncated-fields-and-font-glitches-in-metada...

 

How many versions of Lightroom do we have to go through until this gets fixed?  I am now up to

 

Lightroom Classic 11.4.1

MacOS 12.5

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LEGEND ,
Aug 09, 2022 Aug 09, 2022

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Explorer ,
Aug 18, 2022 Aug 18, 2022

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It's no surprise, alas, but the recently released version 11.5 does NOT fix this issue on a Mac...sigh

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 20, 2022 Aug 20, 2022

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LrC 11.5 Mac, still not fixed.  I'm so glad that Adobe switched to a subscription model so they could fix bugs quickly, instead of making everybody wait for the next major release...

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 02, 2022 Sep 02, 2022

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Issue: Full/Complete Filename won't display in Metadata Panel in Lightroom Classic
Lightroom Classic Version Number: 11.5 [ 202208080927-8a575c91 ]
OS Version Number: Mac OS 12 Version: 12.5.0 [21G72]

Steps to reproduce:

No steps required. See in Grid view of Library, Metadata Panel, Default view (not in edit mode)

 

Notes:  

A) I have tried all other views (those other than default) of the Metadata Panel, and the Minimal view will display a few additional characters of the filename, but still refuses to wrap and display the remaining characters. 

B) In some cases, a complete filename will appear in the Grid cell in Library mode, but in many cases, it won't, so we rely on the Metadata Panel to display a complete filename without manual intervention of every photo to see the data.

C) Customizing the Metadata Panel view can result in fewer filenames shown in their entirety because as one adds more fields to display, the filename field display capacity reduces by a few characters. However, reducing it to only the Filename field does not provide the ability to see complete filenames. 

 

Expected result: Show a complete filename in the Filename field of the Metadata Panel of Library, Grid view. If not here, where?

 

Actual result: Incomplete filename, and in particular, the characters won't wrap to another line (if occupying 1 line, doesn't wrap to line 2; if occupying lines 1 and 2, won't wrap to line 3). If I click on the File Name field, I can see the complete filename, but that's a major hassle to be forced to click on the File Name field of every photo, and to accept the risk of making inadvertent changes to a filename when it's clicked upon. The customized view displayed below did not change the outcome of the number of characters displayed in the File Name field. I checked via experimenting.

 

Workaround in the meantime:  By customizing and displaying the Absolute Path, I can see the last few remaining characters of filenames, and those are important to differentiating images in my filenaming scheme.
File Name incomplete in LrC.jpg

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 02, 2022 Sep 02, 2022

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I'll add that my hardware is a new 16" MacBook Pro with 16 Gb of memory and plenty of SSD available. I've used LrC for more than a decade (since before the C was added), but most of my experience is on the Windows versions. I love the experience of running it on the MacBook aside from this issue.

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Community Expert ,
Sep 02, 2022 Sep 02, 2022

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Make the panel wider (drag the edge) and the file name should appear.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Expert ,
Sep 02, 2022 Sep 02, 2022

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I would agree that the File Name should probably wrap better, if the panel width is as reduced as this. Seems there may be some font scaling-up which may aggravate the issue though,

 

Some other ideas:

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Is this (highlighted in green) not your filename?

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Also, the image's filename is shown above the Filmstrip - in any module - even when you just hover over an image without clicking. Lots of room there for the full name without needing it to wrap or to tr...ncate.

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also when in Library's Loupe view, or in Develop, the filename among other info can be shown by an Info Overlay on the main active image. Easily toggled on and off as you work, by "I" key shortcut.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 02, 2022 Sep 02, 2022

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Customize the Default Metadata display from "Absolute File Path" to "Filename"

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Community Expert ,
Sep 03, 2022 Sep 03, 2022

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@Bob Somrak wrote:

Customize the Default Metadata display from "Absolute File Path" to "Filename"



The Filename field is already just above it. The OP added the file path to see the part of the name that is truncated.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Expert ,
Sep 03, 2022 Sep 03, 2022

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The problem you describe is actually an issue (bug) which only affects the Mac version of LrClassic. Basically for most (all?) of the fields in the Metadata panel which can be edited by the user (such as Filename, Title, Caption) LrC only displays complete lines, i.e. if the entry wraps to more than one display line, the final part of the entry is not displayed if it's less than a full line. It's been that way for a long time, and it is a PITA, especially as the Windows version works correctly.

 

A couple of examples:

 

Windows 10:

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MacOS with filename extending to a second line:

 

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Finally, MacOS with filename extending to a third line:

 

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There are several useful suggestions already provided here, personally I would use the filename display on the "breadcrumbs bar" (above the Filmstrip). It's a pity there's nothing similar for Title and Caption, which are far more likely to extend beyond one line.

 

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Sep 03, 2022 Sep 03, 2022

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On a Mac with 11.5, I can just click on the Filename field to see or edit the whole filename if it's too long for one line. And my Title and Caption fields display all of their content without clicking. It's an Intel Mac on Big Sur, if that's of any relevance.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 03, 2022 Sep 03, 2022

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Another major bug that is not being fixed in LrC.  I used to have a list of LONG TERM major bugs I tested on updates but finally just deleted it as the list got too long and I felt the possibility of them ever being fixed at being close to ZERO.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 05, 2022 Sep 05, 2022

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[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

 

Two more workarounds to this bug (which aren't as convenient as the proper behavior):

 

1. Hover the mouse over Absolute File Path to see the complete file name (and path):

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Hovering to show tooltips on Mac is a little sluggish and occasionally balky.

 

2. If you can't make the width of the right column in Library wide enough to show long file names, edit TranslatedStrings and add this line:

"$$$/locale_metric/Mac/Panel/maxWidth=1600"

That will let you make the column as wide as you need:

johnrellis_1-1662395555264.png

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Sep 05, 2022 Sep 05, 2022

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Nov 08, 2022 Nov 08, 2022

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I'd like to reiterate, and emphasize, that the bug is not just the file name/path fields, but most fields, and it is not only the last line that gets hidden, but sometimes also the last word on the visible line, which I have already reported in an earlier post in this thread, see my post from Feb 01, 2022 . 

 

I'll repeat the screenshot here, as some of you seem to have missed that, and it behaves exactly the same in LRC 11.5:

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The lower screenshot shows the content of the field when I click in the field.

It clearly demonstrates that, unless I actually click in that field, the last word "kvardröjande" of the first line will be invisible (despite it fits there), just as the second line is completely invisible!

 

In another field (User Comment), I have a long text, which can not be revealed in any other way than clicking in the field! It can not be revealed by making the field super-wide by holding the Option key and drag it wider than half the screen! Actually, with a super-wide panel covering more than half the screen, the entirety of the second line of that particular field simply disappears! 

 

You can't realistically browse photos if the right-hand panel occupies half the screen! And in some cases it will not even help!

 

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Explorer ,
Nov 08, 2022 Nov 08, 2022

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This bug has been well reported, and has been acknowledged by Adobe.  It used to affect both the Window and Mac versions of LrC, but was fixed in the Windows version with version 11 (IIRC).  It is still outstanding after several years on the Mac side.  It doesn't seem to be a high priority with Adobe to address it.  Perhaps one factor explaining this is that only 11 people have upvoted the post, suggesting that it isn't bothering too many people (but there may be many people it DOES bother who haven't found the post here...)

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New Here ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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When browsing through photos in Library view in Lightroom Classic, only the firs line of the file name is visible. Most of my filename has more text, and I would love to be able to set the filename field to always display two or three lines of text. This is because I often want and even need to see the whole file name also in browse mode.
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LEGEND ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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You're tripping over a two-year-old Mac LR bug that Adobe hasn't made a priority to fix.

 

See here for some clumsy workarounds:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-truncated-fields-and-font-glitches-in-metada...

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LEGEND ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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