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Copying masks in Lightroom Classic

Community Beginner ,
Feb 08, 2023 Feb 08, 2023

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I have an interesting problem with AI masking where it will past the mask of the previous photo over the new one. When you delete the mask and try to make a new one the A.I. will again paste the old mask. 

This has been persisting since the first time the feature came out. 

 

My system: 

 

Lightroom Classic version: 12.1 [ 202212072312-d7ab524b ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 13
Version: 13.2.0 [22D49]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1,023.5 MB (6.2%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 424,122.3 MB
Memory cache size: 480.1MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 15.1 [ 1329 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 1467MB / 8191MB (17%)
Camera Raw real memory: 1570MB / 16384MB (9%)
Standard Preview Size: 3840 pixels
Displays: 1) 3840x2160

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M1
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path /Users/jjmacmini/Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Catalog-v12.lrcat
Settings Folder /Users/jjmacmini/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) Flickr
4) Loupedeck2
5) Nikon Tether Plugin

Config.lua flags: None

 

 

 

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Advocate , Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

Ok, I see.

It is possible for LrC to "remember" and use the previous copied/synced selected settings and not the currently checked ones...it's a rare misfire.

 

You can do the following.

 

In the copy/sync dialog window "Check None" EVEN if you have not checked Masking.

Then thick again the settings you want to copy/sync and click the Copy/Sync button.

 

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Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

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When does Lightroom paste that mask? All by itself, or do you paste it? Can you describe in more detail what you do?

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

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I don't paste the mask, I copy my settings and even exclude the mask in the copy options. Then paste my settings and the mask is pasted regardless.

 

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Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

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Have you ever tried to reset the preferences? https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

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I have not tried that, and I don't see how it would fix this problem. If I reset my settings and say that fixes the problem, wouldn't me eventually returning to my original setting reproduce the problem? Also I don't want to have to go through and reset everything in my workflow. 

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LEGEND ,
Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

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"I have not tried that, and I don't see how it would fix this problem."

 

LR stores a lot more than the user's explicit settings in its preferences file, and it sometimes corrupts the file due to a longstanding software design flaw. The corrupted file can cause all sorts of flaky behavior. There are hundreds of posts here over the years where resetting the preferences file fixes the problem.

 

See here for how to reset the preferences file and save/restore a backup copy in case resetting doesn't help:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

 

If resetting doesn't help, please describe precisely the steps you are taking -- a screen recording would be best.

 

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Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

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LrC actually reuses the Ai masks/seletions in each photo.

All Sky, Subject, People, Background masks in a photo are (at least now) identical to the first one created on that photo.

 

e.g

 

Create Sky 1

Create Sky 2

 

Sky 2 is actually a duplicate of Sky 1

 

...

If a photo already has a computed/calculated Ai then that Ai mask/selecton will be re-used.

 

So the algorithm, the Machine Learning produces only 1 selection of each Ai type for each photo (not Objects)

 

The only way to paste/sync a totally different Ai Masks form a photo to another to another is to use Copy Settings plug-in by @johnrellis 

 

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Feb 09, 2023 Feb 09, 2023

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The issue is I'm not trying to paste the mask, just the settings. The mask is being brought in even though the option isn't selected. 

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Ok, I see.

It is possible for LrC to "remember" and use the previous copied/synced selected settings and not the currently checked ones...it's a rare misfire.

 

You can do the following.

 

In the copy/sync dialog window "Check None" EVEN if you have not checked Masking.

Then thick again the settings you want to copy/sync and click the Copy/Sync button.

 

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Feb 10, 2023 Feb 10, 2023

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This actually worked for me! 
Thanks for the work around! 

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