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Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments in Photoshop is no longer appearing

New Here ,
May 14, 2021 May 14, 2021

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As the title says, just befre an update everything worked fine. When I hit CMD+E on my mac, it would open a window asking me if I wanted to edit a copy, the original or with the Lightroom Adjustments but that is no longer the case. Only when I hit CMD+Option+E the window appears but that is only for Luminar4 and gives me no option for Photoshop.

 

The temporary fix that I am doing is saving the XMP data to the file by selecting it and hitting CMD+S and then hitting CMD+E and it opens it in photoshop with all of the adjusements fine.

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May 14, 2021 May 14, 2021

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As the title says, it is correct- IF you are sending a raw image to Photoshop.

Ie. Selecting a proprietary raw file (NEF, CR3, ARW, etc) and [Edit-In] will never show the dialog for a 'Copy'.

Selecting an RGB image (JPG, TIF, PSD, PNG) and [Edit-In] WILL show the dialog with the options.

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.0.1, Photoshop 23.0.2, Lightroom 5.0, Bridge 12.0, Windows-10.

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Jun 08, 2021 Jun 08, 2021

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Thanks!

The problem is that there were cahnges made to the RAW file within Lightroom. Color, saturation and profile colors were changed and I wanted to edit with those changes and adjustements already made in photoshop. When I hit, edit in photoshop, it just opens the unotouched RAW file without any adjustments.

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Jun 08, 2021 Jun 08, 2021

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So changes to the raw have to be rendered into a new version. It's a 'raw' edit. 

Edits you make in Photoshop and land back into LR are not raw any longer. So if you 'edit' the raw, that's a different document and data. 

IOW, what you want, an edit with Photoshop edits along with newer edits to the raw can't be done. You draw a line in the sand when you tell LR to edit in Photoshop; that raw and edits are rendered so you can actually open it in Photoshop. You make edits in Photoshop, it's now a TIFF (or whatever you setup in prefs), it is no longer raw. The original raw exists of course. And you can edit that and again open it in Photoshop but the other edits from Photoshop 'live' in another document. 

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Jun 08, 2021 Jun 08, 2021

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+1 for the explanation from @thedigitaldog 

When I hit, edit in photoshop, it just opens the unotouched RAW file without any adjustments.

Can you explain this more?

Do not be confused by the window Tab in Photoshop that might indicate you have opened the 'raw'- That is normal!

eg. Opening an .NEF file by [Ctrl+E] in Lr-Classic:

2021-06-09 06_54_49-RHC-D200-00772.NEF @ 16.7% (RGB_16).jpg

The File-type changes to TIF or PSD when you [Save] the file.

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.0.1, Photoshop 23.0.2, Lightroom 5.0, Bridge 12.0, Windows-10.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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Nov 10, 2021 -- Essentially the same problem reported by PhotoshopUserPRO on May 14.

 

I and others in the online photo forum to which we post have noticed the failure for the pathway Photo>Edit In>Edit Photo with Adobe Photoshop 2022 to display the three choices (see below) when attempting to send a NEF from LrC 11.0 (installed 14 days ago) to PS 23.0.1.

 

  • Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments
  • Edit a Copy
  • Edit Original
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The dialog stopped being displayed for NEFs after upgrading PS yesterday. I reset Preferences to no good effect.

Sending JPGs to Lr does display the three-choice dialog. Someone else stated in this thread that NEFs never trigger the three-choice box. Way wrong.

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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Scroll down at the below link to Adobe Help article.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/editing-photoshop-or-photoshop-elements.html

 

If you’re opening a camera raw file in Photoshop CS3 or later, Photoshop opens the photo directly.

If you’re opening a TIFF, JPEG, or PSD file, choose to open a copy of the photo with Lightroom Classic adjustments applied, or open a copy of the original photo.

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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"I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."

 

If I had asked this question before "upgrading" to PS 23.0.1, you would be absolutely right. But since the upgrade, opening a NEF no longer presents the three-choice dialog. IT USED TO. I have used LR and PS since 1.0 and CS, and the LR->PS action didn't work as you say.

 

Please explain to me why Adobe would change the way NEFs are opened as opposed to non-NEFs.

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Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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"...opening a NEF no longer presents the three-choice dialog. IT USED TO..."

No, respectfully, you are wrong with this assumption.

If you are currently using LrC v11.0 and Ps v23.0.1  then you will not see the 'choices' dialog with proprietary raw files. If you do not have matching ACR versions you get a dialog to "Render".

If you [Edit In] a "Rendered" file (JPG, TIF, PSD), then you will get the choices dialog.

And that is how it was in 2012 when Lightroom Queen (Victoria Bampton) published the workflow diagram in this link-  https://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-the-difference-between-render-using-lightroom-and-open-anyway-i...

2021-11-11 12_09_00-Window.jpg

2021-11-11 12_09_15-Window.jpg

 

 

 

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.0.1, Photoshop 23.0.2, Lightroom 5.0, Bridge 12.0, Windows-10.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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Were you attemting to edit in Photoshop as a TIFF?

Does tonughts update (fix) v 23.0.1 help?

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/photoshop-23-0-1-is-now-available/td-...

 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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>Were you attemting to edit in Photoshop as a TIFF?

No. LR passes the NEF into PS. When the file is edited in PS, it is converted to a PSD or TIF, as set in Preferences

 

>Does tonughts update (fix) v 23.0.1 help?

No, it did not.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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OK, OK, OK!!

I was wrong. I read the notes that we exchanged on our photo website. Buried in the notes were words that actually prove me wrong and ya'll right. OF COURSE the three-choice menu will never be displayed when you select a NEF in LR to send to PS -- you can't edit a NEF.

 

I followed the bunny down the wrong bunny hole. My apologies!

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 11, 2021 Nov 11, 2021

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It seems we bombarded you with replies on the topic. And a topic that took me a long time to comprehend also.

The other question that commonly arises is- "Why does the Photoshop document show the raw filename and file-type on the tab above the image in Ps?". Because Ps does not know what type of file will be produced until it is finally [Saved] to TIF or PSD.

Happy editing..!!

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.0.1, Photoshop 23.0.2, Lightroom 5.0, Bridge 12.0, Windows-10.

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