export without color space

[maximod48463779]

Hello, i'm lightroom newbie and I just want know if are possible to export jpeg files without including a color profile like photoshop option (don't embed color profile).

Thanks a lot.

[Abambo]

Why would you want to do that? Use sRGB, that will be OK for standard applications.

It's not possible to omit the colour space indication.

[maximod48463779]

Hello, after exporting in jpeg the colors change in web applications. In photoshop I newer embed color profile for web and all pictures are perfect.

[Abambo]

Did you choose sRGB for Profile?

On the Web, you will experience differences depending on the browser and the OS/computer you use. Current browsers should, however, honour the colour space.

[maximod48463779]

I see differences directly from windows photo, if picture include a color profile I see strange colors.
My monitor is profiled with a spyder 5 pro.

[Abambo]

Look here: Re: Lightroom not using the Monitor Profile . May be that helps. I suspect a problem with your profiling.

You may also, for a test, open the file in Photoshop and saving without a profile and see if there is a difference between the exported and exported-resaved image.

[maximod48463779]

From Windows in color management I select the calibrated color profile.

Like attached picture if I embed the color profile from phoshop or export from lightroom the colors are more saturated, I know the windows photo viewer doesn't support color profile but I get same results on social networks like facebook, instagram etc. The result change when color profile aren't included, I got the same colors in photoshop, facebook etc.

[Abambo]

Are you using AdobeRGB or sRGB?

[maximod48463779]

My camera by default shot in adobe rgb. Before export from photoshop I always convert to srgb (edit->convert to profile) just for see the results, but when save with color profile srgb the colors are saturated, same thing in lightroom...

[Abambo]

Are you shooting RAW or JPEG? You should shoot RAW and with RAW, the colour space is only important during RAW processing to JPEG or TIFF...

MacOS and Windows have slightly different colour interpretations, therefore colour space IS important. If your colours are looking flat (as on your example, your left image)  against more saturated (right image), I would bet, that the image is AdobeRGB shown as sRGB without correct colour space conversion.

[maximod48463779]

Yes I know, I just shoot in jpeg. I use lightroom only to place a watermark. I'm looking if there's any way to export to a hard drive like facebook or flickr publish services, in fact these services doesn't have color space option.

[Abambo]

Please shoot an image that you can share with us. I would like to be able to see the original JPEG, the Photoshop saved file and the Lr exported file, all from the same source. You can use dropbox or similar to share the picture.

I will have a look at the pictures and then, hopefully, will know why there is a difference.

[randyz57874594]

Yes, I have the same problem. I want to export a color chart to make a camera profile. HOW do I get an unembedded file out of raw? You cannot make a camera profile if the chart file has a profile attached.

[Todd Shaner]

What camera profile software are you using? Both the Colorchecker Passport and Adobe DNG Profile Editor applications require you export the raw file to DNG file format.

[randyz57874594]

https://www.basiccolor.de/basiccolor-input-5-en/

I used to get great results from In Camera with an unembedded Tiff of the SG chart. 

Randy

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 5:04:50 AM PDT, Todd Shaner <forums_noreply@adobe.com> wrote:

export without color space

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What camera profile software are you using? Both the Colorchecker Passport and Adobe DNG Profile Editor applications require you export the raw file to DNG file format.

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[Todd Shaner]

randyz57874594  wrote

https://www.basiccolor.de/basiccolor-input-5-en/

I used to get great results from In Camera with an unembedded Tiff of the SG chart.

https://www.basiccolor.de/basiccolor-input-5-en/

Raw Profiling

Beside the ICC profiling input 5 detects (almost) every

RAW format and creates DCPs, which can be used in

Adobe® Camera Raw or Lightroom immediately.

There's your answer as to what that app requires for creating DCP camera profiles. It can also create ICC profiles, which as elie_di   mentions is a horse of a different color.

[elie_dinur]

randyz57874594  wrote

Yes, I have the same problem. I want to export a color chart to make a camera profile. HOW do I get an unembedded file out of raw? You cannot make a camera profile if the chart file has a profile attached.

No, that is inexact. You cannot make a camera profile if the data from the chart already has had a camera profile applied to it (thus changing it) and since the process of converting Raw data to a rendered RGB color image (Tiff, PSD or Jpeg) always has to start with the application of a camera profile, that means you cannot use an exported RGB image file as the source for creating a new camera profile. You have to use unprocessed and unaltered data directly from the sensor, a Raw or DNG file, because a camera profile is a recipe for accommodating the camera's unique way of seeing to a standard color space.

Also, the thread above is about something entirely different. Every color image is always in some color space. Digital color data is nothing more than a series of numbers, map references as it were, and the map to which they refer is the profile. Embedding the profile identifies the color space and makes the numbers meaningful for any color-managed display software, enabling it to translate the image numbers to the numbers that will produce the same colors in your display medium - screen or print. Without three things - the embedded image profile, color-managed software, and a reasonably good device profile - it is just a roll of the dice.