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Exporting sRBG in LR Classic is not closely similar to "convert to sRGB" Photoshop. Should be?

Explorer ,
Nov 08, 2023 Nov 08, 2023

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When processing multiple files I use LR classic.   Often when only processing a single file I use PShop.   Most online sites ask for sRGB files.    Converting to sRGB in PS has options while exporting from LR Classic does not, or at least on my version it doesn't.  I'd think they'd be very similar.

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Adobe Employee , Nov 08, 2023 Nov 08, 2023

Uncheck the HDR box hidden by your pulldown if you want to use the sRGB color space. 
Lightroom Classic populates compatible color spaces based upon SDR or HDR. 

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Moving to Discussions. 


Export Dialog
See section marked: File Settings
Set sRGB in Color Space (as shown)

 

Screenshot 2023-11-08 at 12.04.07 PM.png

Rikk Flohr - Customer Advocacy: Adobe Photography Products

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I think you're refering to Convert to Profile in Photoshop which allows Intent selection, dither, black point compensation etc. 

Lightroom uses the Adobe conversion and from my reading, relative intent. Why does it give less options? Easy, because it prevents a huge mess from people not understanding them. It does give them where it's needed: Soft Proofing and Printing. 

 

Note that Convert to Profile is changing the image with regards to the working space in Photoshop. Converting down to sRGB throws away information. Lightroom retains the maximum amount of information in the file. 

 

Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.

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Hello. What options are you referring to in PS. The one in the color screen ? Can we have a print screen of the options you see in PS ? 

 

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Screen from PShop convert to sRGB.
[image: screen of convert to sRGB.jpg]

And this is from LR classic export.

[image: lightroom export.jpg]

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Your screenshots aren't showing. Posting images by email doesn't work, you have to reply using a web browser.

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Photoshop convert to sRGB

screen of convert to sRGB.jpg

 LR classic export screen shot.

 

lightroom export.jpg

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Adobe Employee ,
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Uncheck the HDR box hidden by your pulldown if you want to use the sRGB color space. 
Lightroom Classic populates compatible color spaces based upon SDR or HDR. 

Rikk Flohr - Customer Advocacy: Adobe Photography Products

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OMG..........feeling kind of, well, an idiot.
Simple solutions are always the best. FYI -- I was online with Adobe
Support for a couple of hours and they never suggested this fine, fine
solution.

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Explorer ,
Nov 16, 2023 Nov 16, 2023

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That checkbox was the solution.

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They’re two different kinds of conversion.

 

Photoshop has a comprehensive Convert to Profile command that can handle all kinds of color management situations, including converting the document itself to an output-specific profile. That is why it needs to have options like Black Point Compensation, which is mostly irrelevant outside of print. One reason Photoshop has Convert to Profile and Lightroom Classic does not is that Photoshop can save the profile conversion back into to the same document, and Lightroom Classic will never do that.

 

That’s because Lightroom Classic handles color differently as you edit. It does not expose document-specific profiles like Photoshop does, instead working with everything in its wide internal color space. Any color profile conversion option you see in Lightroom Classic is on export or print only, and unlike Convert to Profile in Photoshop, is not written back to the original file.

 

In other words, the profile conversion you see in Lightroom Classic in the Export dialog box is very similar to the profile conversion at export/output that Photoshop does in:

File > Save As/Save a Copy

File > Export > Export As

File > Export > Save for Web (Legacy)

File > Print

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An amazing explanation. Thank you so very much.

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Also, just for the record and since it was mentioned above, rendering intent is not supported in standard RGB working color spaces. Or rather, it's hard wired: whatever you choose, Relative Colorimetric is what you get. Rendering intent is mainly used in print/CMYK profiles.

 

Black point compensation is another thing that can basically be ignored: it should always be on, end of. Never turn it off. It ensures smooth rolloff whenever the black point is remapped. If it's turned off, you risk hard clipping.

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