Issue between Library and Develop Modules and Output

[Julien22102645ctah]

Hi,

My output image looks very different than in Develop Mode and similar to viewing in Library mode. The blacks have been brought down considerable and overall the image looks darker with more contrast.
i looked through similar threads and followed everyones advice; turn off GPU, select ProPhoto color space, purge cache, restart LR but i still have the same issue.

Viewing on the same screen, none of the hardware changes

Its frustrating as now i do not have a faithful rendering of what the outputed image will look like.

Would really appreciate your help in figuring this out

[JohanElzenga]

What do you mean with "Select ProPhoto color space"? Select it where? Do not select it as monitor profile!!! Select the default profile that your Mac came with, or better: calibrate your screen and create a custom monitor profile.

[Julien22102645ctah]

Hi Johan

thabka for your reply. 
i set Prophoto RGB in the Preferences Panel. 
From what I read Library is shown in sRGB color space but Develop is in ProPhoto so there can be a difference between the two. 
My real issue is that the outputted image looks more contrasted and darker than in the Develop Module and almost exactly the same as when viewed in Libarary. Which seems backwards to me. 
i am viewing them on the same machine, no change of hardware color space. Seems like an internal issue with LR. Perhaps it's just a matter of choosing or selecting a particular setting. 
ive been using LR for a long time and never had this issue. 
if you had any insight I would appreciate it

best

j

[JohanElzenga]

"i set Prophoto RGB in the Preferences Panel. "

In what Preferences panel and where in that panel? Can you post a screenshot? You cannot define the color space that Lightroom Classic uses. It always uses a special color space (not exactly ProPhotoRGB, but close to that) in the Develop module and AdobeRGB (not sRGB) in the other modules, and you cannot change that. You can only select different color spaces on export, so it's still not clear what you did.

The different color spaces in Develop and Library can indeed lead to small differences in appearance, but not very much. The reason is that no monitor can show colors that are far beyond AdobeRGB.  When you are working in the Develop module, you are not seeing the image in ProPhotoRGB, but converted to your monitor profile. That is what 'color management' is all about. The same applies to viewing images in the Library, so differences between the two modules should be small or non-existent, depending on the native color space of your monitor. Your screenshots show a difference that should not be so large, which leads me to believe this is a monitor profile issue.

[Julien22102645ctah]

Yes it is in the Extenral Editing pane. 
i réalise it does not affect the image within LR but it was a suggestion I saw so figured to do it. Who doesn't want a wider color space. 
As for the Color Calibration, I use a calibrator but in theory it should not affect the image as I am viewing on the same machine, same color space and all within Adobe platforms. 
i am not viewing as in Soft Proofing either. 
my suspicion is there is a button to click in a drop down menu that will rectify this. 
i have not had this issue before either but as you saw it is marked difference between the 2 images, especially when the outputted image looks like the Library View rather than the Develop view

hope that makes sense

[JohanElzenga]

"Yes it is in the Extenral Editing pane. "

OK, as you already said, that is irrelevant.

"As for the Color Calibration, I use a calibrator but in theory it should not affect the image as I am viewing on the same machine, same color space and all within Adobe platforms. "

No, you are not viewing the same color space, so this is not necessarily true. Because you are viewing in two different color spaces, one probably fairly close to your monitor space (AdobeRGB in the Library) and one vastly larger than your monitor space (MelissaRGB in Develop), a faulty monitor profile could have a much more profound effect on what you see in Develop than what you see in Library. You can check this by seleting some other profile (I suggest to use sRGB for a standard monitor, and AdobeRGB for a wide gamut monitor) as monitor profile, just as a test. Don't look at how the colors look (they may not be correct now), but check if the difference between Library and Develop is gone, or at least a lot less.

"my suspicion is there is a button to click in a drop down menu that will rectify this. "

No, there is no such button. If there was, I would have told you to click it.

[Julien22102645ctah]

Thanks Johan,
Well somehow i fixed it by clicking through a few dropdown menus.

I was in the Current Process - Version 6 in Develop Module but from the Library Module i selected Photo>Develop Settings>Update to Current Process Version

Seems to have fixed the issue, not that i really know why

Thanks for your help