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Key wording changed during file clean up

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I didn't clue into hierarchial keywording until it was too late (10's of '000s of images keyworded). So I made up a hierarchical structure by letter (up to "R") . That has worked fine.

 

I recently started cleaning up my folders and have run "Synchronize Folder" against many folders. This found files that I had not deleted from the drive when I removed them from the catalog. It also checked/corrected metadata.

 

However it seems to be re-organizing my keywords slightly.....

 

See examples below.

- In a synchronized folder, some, not all, of the keywords now show as "keyword < hierarchical folder". 

- this is not something that I did, it happened during the synchronization, and not to all keywords.

 

It is not a game breaker, but it is a pain. I could go in and re-add the keyword without the "<" and then delete the "<" version.

Why is this happening ? Any thoughts?

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AFAICT because you imported (which is part of what Sync Folder does) some images whose keywording pre-dated your keyword reorganisation, those images arrived with an old-fashioned version of the Ottawa keyword which lacks any parent keyword. So your Catalog now contains both sorts - the old-fashioned one, and the new one which possesses a parent keyword.

 

Once there are two Ottawa keywords present, LrC now has to declare WHICH Ottawa keyword a particular image has got, as it does not need to do w

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See examples below.

- In a synchronized folder, some, not all, of the keywords now show as "keyword < hierarchical folder". 

- this is not something that I did, it happened during the synchronization, and not to all keywords.

 

I can't view your examples. Please include screen captures by clicking on the "Insert Photos" icon rather than as file attachments.

 

keyword < hierarchical folder

 

If you mean 

 

keyword < parent keyword

 

instead of hierarchical folder, then this is how Lightroom Classic displays keywords that appear more than once. Keywords are not shown as embedded inside a folder, that doesn't make sense.

 

So, for example, since the city of London exists in England and in Ontario, Canada, you could see keywords such as

 

London < England

London < Ontario

 

So this is normal and expected behavior for Lightroom Classic and cannot be turned off

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dj:

I will insert the screen grabs below. I can see the images in my original post, but no problem inserting them below.

 

I did not add any extra duplicate keywords on my own. The change happened doing the "Synch folder" routine.old.jpgnew.jpg

 

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AFAICT because you imported (which is part of what Sync Folder does) some images whose keywording pre-dated your keyword reorganisation, those images arrived with an old-fashioned version of the Ottawa keyword which lacks any parent keyword. So your Catalog now contains both sorts - the old-fashioned one, and the new one which possesses a parent keyword.

 

Once there are two Ottawa keywords present, LrC now has to declare WHICH Ottawa keyword a particular image has got, as it does not need to do when there is only one. It does that by displaying whatever parent keyword differentiates (disambiguates) these two, as appropriate.

 

TO unscramble this you can re-name one of these two Ottawa keywords in some way. That will make it easy and understandable to find those images, and substitute the Ottawa keyword instance that you want them to have.

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Thanks Richard

 

Guess I won't do any more synching and I'll go in and remove/realign the "new" keywords...

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