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Recently I decided to try a photo book through LR/Blurb. The process was seamless , and the “proof” copy I ordered was perfect. (Full disclosure, I’m a retired photographer with 50 years experience. I shoot exclusively in black and white and my standards are pretty high.)
Based on the exceptional proof copy I ordered 5 more copies. The 5 copies arrived with all of the highlights having a strong blue cast. I complained to Blurb and they re-ran another copy that came through with the same blue cast. I sent them some side-by-side comparisons with the original proof copy, and their response ( below) essentially says that when you go through Blurb for B&W, you can expect anything from Blue-and-White to Red-and-White, and that’s fine according to their quality thresholds. I’m not posting this to complain, just to make you aware of these quality thresholds as Adobe is partnered with Blurb as a book vendor. I was particularly put off but by the statement that you shouldn't expect a book to look like what you see on the computer screen with Lightroom. That, to me, is unacceptable. When I make a print on my Epson printer I get exactly what I see on the screen, otherwise why put the work into LightRoom.
BLURB RESPONSE
I'm sorry to hear that you're still not happy with the reprinted book. When you print your book through our (or any other) print-on-demand process there's always the chance of some slight variation in the printing and production process.
That variation could be in the color of your book. It might look slightly warmer (more red) or slightly cooler (more blue) compared to the original image, or compared to the same book printed earlier.
You may see some slight variation in the brightness of the printed image compared to the original image or the same image printed earlier.
There may also be slight variations in the trimming, binding and alignment of the printed book.
Any variation should be slight but may still be noticeable. (An extreme variation would likely be considered a print defect). We simply have to allow for any slight variations that can occur in production.
This means you may not get a 100% match between what's on your screen and what's in the printed book, or between different orders of the same book.
But your book should still fall within our overall quality standards and that's the case here. Your book has some of the slight variation we have to allow for.
If this was a print defect I could order you a replacement and be confident it would look better. But a reprint won't guarantee a different result in this case and I don't want you to be disappointed by a second attempt.
Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Best regards,
Zoe
Blurb Customer Support
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I'm investing in a large book and trying to address the issue of color management. Blurb does an excellent job explaining the difference in screen & print color management. And they clearly state what color profile they use in printing, but I am unable to find a way to preview my book for their color profile. I've tried installing their ICC profile but it doesn't show up in Lightroom. I've emailed blurb but they just refer me back to their web page. Are there any instructions on how to proof the colors for blurb printing before sending to blurb?
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Frankly I think Burb is rather clueless about color management. And it appears, process control or the OP's subsequent books would match the first.
They provide an ICC profile for soft proofing that's worthless. Why? Because it's ONE profile that is supposed to define all the print processes and papers which is just impossible. I measured all the papers Blurb provides, just the papers alone are not even close to GRACol 2006. In fact, the deltaE differences in just the two most different papers are nearly dE4!
Worse, it's a generic CMYK profile that isn't targeting their devices. The Blurb ICC profile is definitely GRACoL2006 Coated1, right down to the paper white L*a*b*. What they're using is essentially a copy of the IDEAlliance GRACoL profile and has little to do with how they're actually printing.
So proofing via a profile is an utter waste of anyone's time. Too bad their process control isn't better too.
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Lightroom opens the web page after uploading where you'll be able to see the soft preview of how the book looks.
Is the difference you're referring to between LR and Soft Preview in web or Soft preview and Printed book?
Thanks,
Bhargav
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I'm talking about soft proofing in Develop module with their useless profile.
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This is my first book. So are you saying I have to upload the book to Blurb to soft preview it for accurate color printing profile? And then if there are problems, go back to LR to fix them, then re-upload to check another soft proof? Just making sure I understand the work flow. This is not clearly stated anywhere online that I'm finding.
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This is my first book. So are you saying I have to upload the book to Blurb to soft preview it for accurate color printing profile? And then if there are problems, go back to LR to fix them, then re-upload to check another soft proof? Just making sure I understand the work flow. This is not clearly stated anywhere online that I'm finding.
You can't soft proof period. The profile doesn't reflect all the print conditions; it's bogus. The preview on the web is simply for placement (FPO), not color/tone, not true soft proofing.
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Hi - it turns out that the Blurb printing happens elsewhere from where the Blurb company and customer service operation is - it seems like the actual printing is outsourced. Blurb doesn't have any mechanism to send a sample proof in advance of you committing to an entire book (there's a 20 page minimum for any book) and, if you have issues with the color or placement of photos in a book that you've purchased, they ask that you take a photo of the issue and send it to them! I had to explain, via email because they don't take calls, that there's no way that a photo of a printed page, that is then emailed, will accurately reflect an issue with color or brightness. In addition, blurb does not offer any color correction or color management. I'd never use this service for work I'd produce for clients and it's appalling that Adobe has allowed this book printing option to be tied to Lightroom.
That all being said, the interface is seamless and that's the one good thing. Oh well.
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