Lightroom Classic Spot Heal Brush - Poor Performance - SOLVED

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Jun 23, 2022 Jun 23, 2022

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Maybe this is a bug, maybe it's just optimisation limits within the software - IDK.

Anyway, I went through all the adjustment sliders when trying to get to the bottom of unusable performance with the spot healing tool, and only the following sliders have an appreciable impact on performance:

 

* Highlights

* Shadows
* Clarity

 

If any of these 3 settings are nonzero, performance *tanks* to unusable levels. If they're zero'd, then you can zip away editing at cheetah speed. Caches, GPU, preview size etc etc make no detectable impact on this - but as soon as you zero SH/Clarity, performance is back to normal.

 

I appreciate the procedural/stacked nature of edits in LR (And thus the fact that the more adjustments you have applied, the slower one expects it to become) , but I really think there's something very wrong with the compute pipeline if Shadow/Highlight is performance breaking, and Noise Reduction / Lens Correction doesn't have an appreciable impact.


Further the suggestion that one should "Do the spot healing first" is technically correct, but often unworkable. Volume and event photography typically requires you slap a preset on the working set, make global exposure adjustments, then retouch on request / on scrutinised inspection. Flipping that around to retouch minor details *first* is incredibly counterproductive.

I made a detail videoing the tests if anyone cares, though I hold out little hope.

Leaving this here for all the other frustrated users, if your spot heals are lagging, neutralise clarity, shadows, and highlights, and see if it helps.

 

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   Fixel FFT Wizard 2.0.000 18.0 - from the file ā€œFixel FFT Wizard 2.8bfā€
   Fresco 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   GatherImageDataFilter 17.0 - from the file ā€œGigapixelAIGather_x64.8bfā€
   Glass 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Glowing Edges 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Grain 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Graphic Pen 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Halftone Pattern 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Halide Bottlenecks 23.3 - from the file ā€œHalideBottlenecks.8bxā€
   HDR Efex Pro 2 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œHDR Efex Pro 2.8bfā€
   HDRMergeUI 23.3 - from the file ā€œHDRMergeUI.8bfā€
   Hidden NO VERSION - from the file ā€œTopazRemaskAutomation.8liā€
   HotPixelsFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œHotPixels.8bfā€
   HSB/HSL 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   IFF Format 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   IGES 23.3 - from the file ā€œU3D.8biā€
   Ink Outlines 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   JPEG 2000 23.3 - from the file ā€œJPEG2000.8biā€
   Kurtosis 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   Lens Blur 23.3 - from the file ā€œLens Blur.8bfā€
   Lens Correction 23.3 - from the file ā€œLens Correction.8bfā€
   Lens Flare 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Liquify 23.3 - from the file ā€œLiquify.8bfā€
   Luminar AI 17.0 - from the file ā€œLuminarAI.8bfā€
   Material Filter NO VERSION - from the file ā€œMaterialFilter.8bfā€
   Matlab Operation 23.3 - from the file ā€œChannelPort.8bfā€
   Maximum 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   Mean 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   Measurement Core 23.3 - from the file ā€œMeasurementCore.8meā€
   Median 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   Merge to HDR Efex Pro 2 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œHDR Efex Pro 2.8bfā€
   Mezzotint 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Minimum 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   MMXCore Routines 23.3 - from the file ā€œMMXCore.8bxā€
   Mosaic Tiles 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Multiprocessor Support 23.3 - from the file ā€œMultiProcessor Support.8bxā€
   Neon Glow 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Nik Selective Tool 2 5.0.4 - from the file ā€œSelectivePalette.8liā€
   Note Paper 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   NTSC Colors 23.3 - from the file ā€œNTSC Colors.8bfā€
   Ocean Ripple 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   OpenEXR 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Paint Daubs 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Palette Knife 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Patchwork 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Paths to Illustrator 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   PCX 23.3 - from the file ā€œPCX.8biā€
   Perspective Efex 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œPhotoshopPlugin-filterPerspectiveEfex64.8bfā€
   Perspective Efex automation 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œPhotoshopPlugin-automationPerspectiveEfex64.8liā€
   Photocopy 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Picture Package Filter 23.3 - from the file ā€œChannelPort.8bfā€
   Pinch 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Pixar 23.3 - from the file ā€œPixar.8biā€
   Plaster 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Plastic Wrap 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Pointillize 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Polar Coordinates 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Portable Bit Map 23.3 - from the file ā€œPBM.8biā€
   Poster Edges 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   PRC 23.3 - from the file ā€œU3D.8biā€
   Radial Blur 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Radiance 23.3 - from the file ā€œRadiance.8biā€
   Range 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   Render Color Lookup Grid 23.3 - from the file ā€œExport3DLUT.8beā€
   Reticulation 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Retouch4me Clean Backdrop 1.0 - from the file ā€œRetouch4me Clean Backdrop.8bfā€
   Retouch4me Dodge&Burn 1.0 - from the file ā€œRetouch4me Dodge Burn.8bfā€
   Retouch4me Heal 1.0 - from the file ā€œRetouch4me Heal.8bfā€
   Ripple 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Rough Pastels 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Save for Web 23.3 - from the file ā€œSave for Web.8beā€
   ScriptingSupport 23.3 - from the file ā€œScriptingSupport.8liā€
   ShadowsFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œShadows.8bfā€
   Sharpener Pro 3: (1) RAW Presharpener 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œSHP3RPS.8bfā€
   Sharpener Pro 3: (2) Output Sharpener 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œSHP3OS.8bfā€
   Shear 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Silver Efex Pro 3 NO VERSION - from the file ā€œNikCollection.8bfā€
   Skewness 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   SkinFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œSkin.8bfā€
   SkyFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œSky.8bfā€
   Smart Blur 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Smudge Stick 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Solarize 23.3 - from the file ā€œSolarize.8bfā€
   Spatter 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Spherize 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Sponge 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Sprayed Strokes 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Stained Glass 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Stamp 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Standard Deviation 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   StrongNoiseFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file ā€œStrongNoise.8bfā€
   Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file ā€œMaterialSuite.8liā€
   Sumi-e 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Summation 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   Targa 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Texturizer 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Tiles 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Topaz DeNoise AI 18.0 - from the file ā€œtltopazdenoiseaips_x64.8bfā€
   Topaz Gigapixel AI 17.0 - from the file ā€œGigapixelAIAutomation_x64.8liā€
   Topaz ReMask 5 10.0 - from the file ā€œtlremask5ps_x64.8bfā€
   Topaz Sharpen AI 18.0 - from the file ā€œtltopazsharpenaips_x64.8bfā€
   Torn Edges 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Twirl 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   U3D 23.3 - from the file ā€œU3D.8biā€
   Underpainting 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Vanishing Point 23.3 - from the file ā€œVanishingPoint.8bfā€
   Variance 23.3 - from the file ā€œstatistics.8baā€
   Viveza 3 NO VERSION - from the file ā€œNikCollection.8bfā€
   Water Paper 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Watercolor 23.3 - from the file ā€œFilter Gallery.8bfā€
   Wave 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   WIA Support 23.3 - from the file ā€œWIASupport.8liā€
   Wind 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€
   Wireless Bitmap 23.3 - from the file ā€œWBMP.8biā€
   ZigZag 23.3 - from the file ā€œStandard MultiPlugin.8bfā€

Optional and third party plugins:

   Ft2DH. 1.0.6 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\Ft2DH.8bfā€
   Ft2DS. 1.0.5 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\Ft2DS.8bfā€
   Ft3DH. 1.0.3 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\Ft3DH.8bfā€
   iFt2DH 1.0.5 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\iFt2DH.8bfā€
   iFt2DS 1.0.5 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\iFt2DS.8bfā€
   iFt3DH 1.0.3 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\iFt3DH.8bfā€

Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE


Plugins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

   Home Screen (Loaded) 5.11.0.25 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-5.11.0\"
   CDO: 1.120.0
        CmdN: 1.11.2
        CDP: 1.143.0
        Projects: 1.3.10
      Loaded at: 256 ms - launch time impact: 65 ms
   ccx-timeline (Prepared) 2.6.41.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 22.7.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 15260 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 21.4.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.19.218.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\"
   CAPTURE: 2.0.26  STOCK: 2.0.40
   Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.4.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 2.7.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 15261 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
      Loaded at: 9437 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   Photoshop Cloud Value Dialog (Loaded) 1.0.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 12400 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   Discover Panel (Loaded) 2.5.0.28 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 15262 ms - launch time impact: 415 ms
   Neural Filters (Registered) 1.12.1.31 - from the file "Required Folder"

Extensions:

   Libraries  1.0.0 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\index.htmlā€
   com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded  1.0.0 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.htmlā€
   com.adobe.capture.extension  1.0.0 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\extensions\capture\capture.htmlā€
   Fixel FFT Wizard 2  1.0.0 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.fixelalgorithms.fftwizard2\index.htmlā€
   Export As  4.8.15 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.htmlā€
   Remove Background  1.2.0 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\bg.remove\client\index.htmlā€
   Export As  4.8.15 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.htmlā€
   com.adobe.cclibraries.manager  1.0.0 - from the file ā€œC:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\manager.htmlā€

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

 

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Update: I have now had this confirmed by two other users, as well as a Mac OSX user on LR Classic.
A video of the performance drop is available, but moderators tend to delete links to them, so if anyone out there wishes to see it please get in touch.

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