Lightroom Classic Spot Heal Brush - Poor Performance - SOLVED

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Jun 23, 2022 Jun 23, 2022

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Maybe this is a bug, maybe it's just optimisation limits within the software - IDK.

Anyway, I went through all the adjustment sliders when trying to get to the bottom of unusable performance with the spot healing tool, and only the following sliders have an appreciable impact on performance:

 

* Highlights

* Shadows
* Clarity

 

If any of these 3 settings are nonzero, performance *tanks* to unusable levels. If they're zero'd, then you can zip away editing at cheetah speed. Caches, GPU, preview size etc etc make no detectable impact on this - but as soon as you zero SH/Clarity, performance is back to normal.

 

I appreciate the procedural/stacked nature of edits in LR (And thus the fact that the more adjustments you have applied, the slower one expects it to become) , but I really think there's something very wrong with the compute pipeline if Shadow/Highlight is performance breaking, and Noise Reduction / Lens Correction doesn't have an appreciable impact.


Further the suggestion that one should "Do the spot healing first" is technically correct, but often unworkable. Volume and event photography typically requires you slap a preset on the working set, make global exposure adjustments, then retouch on request / on scrutinised inspection. Flipping that around to retouch minor details *first* is incredibly counterproductive.

I made a detail videoing the tests if anyone cares, though I hold out little hope.

Leaving this here for all the other frustrated users, if your spot heals are lagging, neutralise clarity, shadows, and highlights, and see if it helps.

 

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   Hidden NO VERSION - from the file “TopazRemaskAutomation.8li”
   HotPixelsFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file “HotPixels.8bf”
   HSB/HSL 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   IFF Format 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   IGES 23.3 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
   Ink Outlines 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   JPEG 2000 23.3 - from the file “JPEG2000.8bi”
   Kurtosis 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   Lens Blur 23.3 - from the file “Lens Blur.8bf”
   Lens Correction 23.3 - from the file “Lens Correction.8bf”
   Lens Flare 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Liquify 23.3 - from the file “Liquify.8bf”
   Luminar AI 17.0 - from the file “LuminarAI.8bf”
   Material Filter NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf”
   Matlab Operation 23.3 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
   Maximum 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   Mean 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   Measurement Core 23.3 - from the file “MeasurementCore.8me”
   Median 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   Merge to HDR Efex Pro 2 5.0.4.1 - from the file “HDR Efex Pro 2.8bf”
   Mezzotint 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Minimum 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   MMXCore Routines 23.3 - from the file “MMXCore.8bx”
   Mosaic Tiles 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Multiprocessor Support 23.3 - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx”
   Neon Glow 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Nik Selective Tool 2 5.0.4 - from the file “SelectivePalette.8li”
   Note Paper 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   NTSC Colors 23.3 - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf”
   Ocean Ripple 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   OpenEXR 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Paint Daubs 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Palette Knife 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Patchwork 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Paths to Illustrator 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   PCX 23.3 - from the file “PCX.8bi”
   Perspective Efex 5.0.4.1 - from the file “PhotoshopPlugin-filterPerspectiveEfex64.8bf”
   Perspective Efex automation 5.0.4.1 - from the file “PhotoshopPlugin-automationPerspectiveEfex64.8li”
   Photocopy 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Picture Package Filter 23.3 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
   Pinch 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Pixar 23.3 - from the file “Pixar.8bi”
   Plaster 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Plastic Wrap 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Pointillize 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Polar Coordinates 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Portable Bit Map 23.3 - from the file “PBM.8bi”
   Poster Edges 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   PRC 23.3 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
   Radial Blur 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Radiance 23.3 - from the file “Radiance.8bi”
   Range 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   Render Color Lookup Grid 23.3 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
   Reticulation 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Retouch4me Clean Backdrop 1.0 - from the file “Retouch4me Clean Backdrop.8bf”
   Retouch4me Dodge&Burn 1.0 - from the file “Retouch4me Dodge Burn.8bf”
   Retouch4me Heal 1.0 - from the file “Retouch4me Heal.8bf”
   Ripple 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Rough Pastels 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Save for Web 23.3 - from the file “Save for Web.8be”
   ScriptingSupport 23.3 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li”
   ShadowsFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file “Shadows.8bf”
   Sharpener Pro 3: (1) RAW Presharpener 5.0.4.1 - from the file “SHP3RPS.8bf”
   Sharpener Pro 3: (2) Output Sharpener 5.0.4.1 - from the file “SHP3OS.8bf”
   Shear 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Silver Efex Pro 3 NO VERSION - from the file “NikCollection.8bf”
   Skewness 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   SkinFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file “Skin.8bf”
   SkyFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file “Sky.8bf”
   Smart Blur 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Smudge Stick 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Solarize 23.3 - from the file “Solarize.8bf”
   Spatter 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Spherize 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Sponge 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Sprayed Strokes 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Stained Glass 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Stamp 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Standard Deviation 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   StrongNoiseFilter 5.0.4.1 - from the file “StrongNoise.8bf”
   Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialSuite.8li”
   Sumi-e 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Summation 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   Targa 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Texturizer 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Tiles 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Topaz DeNoise AI 18.0 - from the file “tltopazdenoiseaips_x64.8bf”
   Topaz Gigapixel AI 17.0 - from the file “GigapixelAIAutomation_x64.8li”
   Topaz ReMask 5 10.0 - from the file “tlremask5ps_x64.8bf”
   Topaz Sharpen AI 18.0 - from the file “tltopazsharpenaips_x64.8bf”
   Torn Edges 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Twirl 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   U3D 23.3 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
   Underpainting 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Vanishing Point 23.3 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”
   Variance 23.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
   Viveza 3 NO VERSION - from the file “NikCollection.8bf”
   Water Paper 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Watercolor 23.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
   Wave 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   WIA Support 23.3 - from the file “WIASupport.8li”
   Wind 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
   Wireless Bitmap 23.3 - from the file “WBMP.8bi”
   ZigZag 23.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plugins:

   Ft2DH. 1.0.6 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\Ft2DH.8bf”
   Ft2DS. 1.0.5 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\Ft2DS.8bf”
   Ft3DH. 1.0.3 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\Ft3DH.8bf”
   iFt2DH 1.0.5 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\iFt2DH.8bf”
   iFt2DS 1.0.5 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\iFt2DS.8bf”
   iFt3DH 1.0.3 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\Pattern_Suppressor_WIN\iFt3DH.8bf”

Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE


Plugins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

   Home Screen (Loaded) 5.11.0.25 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-5.11.0\"
   CDO: 1.120.0
        CmdN: 1.11.2
        CDP: 1.143.0
        Projects: 1.3.10
      Loaded at: 256 ms - launch time impact: 65 ms
   ccx-timeline (Prepared) 2.6.41.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 22.7.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 15260 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 21.4.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.19.218.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\"
   CAPTURE: 2.0.26  STOCK: 2.0.40
   Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.4.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 2.7.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 15261 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
   IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
      Loaded at: 9437 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   Photoshop Cloud Value Dialog (Loaded) 1.0.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 12400 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
   Discover Panel (Loaded) 2.5.0.28 - from the file "Required Folder"
      Loaded at: 15262 ms - launch time impact: 415 ms
   Neural Filters (Registered) 1.12.1.31 - from the file "Required Folder"

Extensions:

   Libraries  1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\index.html”
   com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded  1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html”
   com.adobe.capture.extension  1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\extensions\capture\capture.html”
   Fixel FFT Wizard 2  1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.fixelalgorithms.fftwizard2\index.html”
   Export As  4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
   Remove Background  1.2.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\bg.remove\client\index.html”
   Export As  4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
   com.adobe.cclibraries.manager  1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_218-2\manager.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

 

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Update: I have now had this confirmed by two other users, as well as a Mac OSX user on LR Classic.
A video of the performance drop is available, but moderators tend to delete links to them, so if anyone out there wishes to see it please get in touch.

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