LR classic export with mask issue

[purplepepper]

working with LR classic. Able to make mask adjustments(easy & wonderful)  BUT cannot get to export edited image with new mask applied. Working on MAC version. 11.6

[Tarun Saini]

Hi there,

We're sorry for the trouble with Lightroom Classic. Would you mind telling us the version of Lightroom Classic you're on? Please share the System Info by going to the Lightroom Classic app > Help> system Info, copy the info and send it to us.

Could you please elaborate on the issue more, what's happening while exporting the edited image? Are you getting any error messages? Since when are you seeing this issue? Also, which file format are you trying to export?

We're here to help. Just need some info.

Regards,

Tarun

[purplepepper]

Edit image in Develop with overlay, select object looks perfect then go to export, export as as jpeg but file is saved without the mask overly

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[purplepepper]

No error messages. Image exported does not show edited image with mask. First time time using LR Classic and trying this new mask abilities.

[GoldingD]

With the mask, as in the overlay., or as in the edits? (such as exposure, etc)

[purplepepper]

Overlay

[purplepepper]

[GoldingD]

An export will have all the develop mods baked into it. It will not have the various steps included.

So, you create a mask, say a Radial Gradiant, you increase the exposure in that mask, Fine, now you export the image. The new image should look like where you left off in the original photos edits, that area you brought the exposure up, should look as expected. What you will not see is the mask, not the pin for the mask, not the mask, not the overlay for the mask.

[JohanElzenga · Accepted solution]

This is a common misunderstanding of how masks work. What your screenshot shows is that the background is black as a result of using the 'Image on black' mask overlay. A mask overlay is just a way to view the mask however, it is not an image adjustment in itself. The screenshot also shows that you did not make any adjustments in the mask panel. That is why the exported image does not show any results of your masking. If you want the background to become black, then try adding a -5.0 Exposure adjustment and see if that is enough to make that background black. If it isn't, then copy the mask so you have two exposure adjustments.

[purplepepper]

Thank you  SO SO much for your well put explanation and the time you took to help me!

[GoldingD]

Somehow I suspect I am reading your problem incorrectly.

Ok, looking at that nice photo you posted, I notice the following

• Mask in use appears to be Select Subject
• Overlay appears to be on
• Overlay in use appears to be Image on Black
• Last develop (in mask) edit, has not yet been fully commited to vy moving on, or just pressing done, not a big deal as to issues at hand.

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note, tested this on one of mine as to clarify in my mid that thosevare the steps that may have occured. And I notice, that the history panel does not show the change in overlay in use.

So, that nice black background, is not a background, it is not an edit to the image, it is just the overlay for the mask currently in use.

What shows up if you click on done (or move on to another develop mod), Probably nothing new as no sliders appear to have been moved.

If you want that nice black background, this is not it.

[purplepepper]

PS GOT IT!

[F Barnett]

I am having a similar problem. I edit the photo, but the edit does not stick.  I created a new mask and chose the "Select Sky" option.  I used the colour option ot make the sky consistently blue. When I leave the photo, the mask overlay goes away, and I cannot export the changed image, only teh underlying one. What am I doing wrong or failing to do?

[Per Berntsen]

The mask overlay is only a visual aid to indicate the part of the image that will be affected by your edits.

So setting the mask overly color to blue does not give you a blue sky.

Although you can do your edits with the color overlay showing, it will be very hard to see what you're doing.

So turn the overlay off (press O), then do your edits.

See also the post by @JohanElzenga above.

[F Barnett]

Hello Per,



Thank you for your reply and suggestion. I had noticed the @JohanElzenga post before I sent my question in.



Different from the observation in the Johan post, I did make adjustments while the mask was on by selecting Sky, and then adding the color, so I thought this should be the solution.



If I read your and Johan's comments right, and if what I did does not make a “save-able” change to the picture, the Select Sky mask would only be a different view of the photo, and would make no changes. If this is correct, there are 2 consequences - 1 is that there is no way to use the Select Sky (or any other option within Mask) to edit the photo for export or other purposes, and the other would be that all the information Adobe has put up about masking is incorrect, as editing is not possible in the Mask. I must be missing something, as I can find no place with the Mask overlay off to make such edits.



Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.



Thanks,



Francis

[JohanElzenga]

Maybe you should post a screenshot, because it's unclear what you did and what you did not do. Like explained already, the mask overlay is not an edit. It's just a way of showing what areas of the photo will be affected by the mask if you use the sliders of that mask. So if you change the color of the mask overlay to blue, then you do not change the image. You just changed that view.

To make the masked sky blue, you need to make a slider adjustment. The best way (in my opinion) is to use the Temperature slider.

It's possible that the mask slider section is collapsed, so you do not see any mask sliders. Look for a small triangle next to 'Effect'. That should point downwards. If it does not, then click on it.

[F Barnett]

Hello Johan,

I think I now understand.  I did what you suggested, and it worked.  I did not learn that from the Adobe material.   The biggest thing is that the mask overlay color is not an edit at all.  Thank you for the clarity - much appreciated!
Francis

[richardplondon]

In case an analogy is helpful, one can think of the paper stencils that people sometimes use with spray paint.

The particular colour of paper a given stencil has been cut from, makes zero practical difference. The end result depends, only, on whatever paint has been sprayed on (through this stencil, and then remaining on the surface after you've put the stencil away).

[Joe Creative]

Hi,

It seems there's some confusion on your question that the Adobe team might not understand what are needs are, and I'm glad you've brought it up.

We all know how to create masks in Lightroom. The challenge you're referring to, if I understand correctly, is how to export these masks as layers so that they can still be utilized when the image is opened in Photoshop.

A potential solution could be for the programmers to enable the masks created in Lightroom to function as Alpha channels. This way, an artist or retoucher could continue to use these masks in Photoshop.

This would support a non-destructive workflow, which is fundamental in digital art and photo retouching. Unfortunately, it seems this option hasn't been included in the current version.

Your point is very valid and I think it's something that the developers should seriously consider for future updates.

I’m hoping that my explanation makes sense for a programmer developers at Adobe.

[Joe Creative]

1. Hi,

   It seems there's some confusion on your question that the Adobe team might not understand what are needs are, and I'm glad you've brought it up.

   We all know how to create masks in Lightroom. The challenge you're referring to, if I understand correctly, is how to export these masks as layers so that they can still be utilized when the image is opened in Photoshop.

   A potential solution could be for the programmers to enable the masks created in Lightroom to function as Alpha channels. This way, an artist or retoucher could continue to use these masks in Photoshop.

   This would support a non-destructive workflow, which is fundamental in digital art and photo retouching. Unfortunately, it seems this option hasn't been included in the current version.

   Your point is very valid and I think it's something that the developers should seriously consider for future updates.

   I’m hoping that my explanation makes sense for a programmer developers at Adobe.

[dj_paige]

I don't think the Adobe team ever intended LrC to create masks as layers that can be used when opened in Photoshop. I doubt its that they don't understand, I'm think it was never a goal.