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LR WAV audio files have gotten detached from image files in LR Classic--but they are on drive.

Explorer ,
Apr 13, 2024 Apr 13, 2024

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I am using AnyFilter from @John R Ellis for locate audio files I've made while shooting still images with my Fujifilm cameras.

 

When I used the AnyFilter plug-in today, it reported just 8 images among my 115,000+ images as having associated WAV files. I have way more than that.

 

I checked a specific directory and found this example of image #64251 that has an associate .wav file. But in LR, it does not show up in Metatdata. When I search with AnyFilter from John R Ellis, this image/audio combination does how show up either.

 

How can I re-associate these orphaned .wav files to their image counterparts so LR recognizes their presences?

 

If I locate one of the combos in Finder and I open in the LR CC and then go into the Develop module, the audio file reassociates in LR.  But I have to know there is such an orphaned audio file to do that.

 

Note in metadata snips that 64251 has an audio file in LR but 64250 does not, yet both audio files exist on my SSD.  64251 audio now shows up in metadata because I opened it in Develop module

 

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Apr 14, 2024 Apr 14, 2024

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@IanLyons  pinging you as you answered an earlier question here about associated voice files.   Thanks.

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Apr 15, 2024 Apr 15, 2024

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@snsok 

 

I can't provide an solution as I've not come across the issue you describe. If AnyFilter is also not finding the WAV files, then @John R Ellis may have a better understanding of what's preventing your WAV files from being found.

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Apr 15, 2024 Apr 15, 2024

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Just now, I looked at LR's handling of .wav files and sidecars in general in my test catalog (originally created years ago and constantly modified). I observed weirdnesses I couldn't reproduce in a new catalog. But I think we should be able to straighten out your catalog.

 

"When I used the AnyFilter plug-in today, it reported just 8 images among my 115,000+ images as having associated WAV files."

 

Any Filter has two different criteria, Sidecars and Associated File Types. Which one were you using?  

 

The criterion Sidecars contains the list of extensions which LR displays in its Sidecar Files field:

 

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Whereas the criterion Associated File Types for file xxyyzz.CR3 shows all of the extensions of files in the same folder with the same base name. E.g. if the folder also contained xxyyzz.pdf and xxyyzz.wav, then Associated File Types would contain "pdf" and "wav".  

 

Previous versions of LR would usually display all Associated File Types in the Sidecars field, e.g. "xxyyzz.pdf". But LR 13.2 seems to display just "known" sidecars, e.g. "xmp" and "wav".  But I haven't investigated this thoroughly.

 

So getting back to your catalog:

 

0. Make a backup of your catalog and verify that the backup works.

 

1. Select All Photographs and run Any Filter > Filter with the criteria Associated File Types and Sidecars:

 

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You should see a very large count for Associated File Types = "wav" and a very small count for Sidecars = "WAV" or "wav".

 

2.  Click on Associated File Types = "wav" and Sidecars = "All".  That will display all photos with associated WAV files.

 

3. Select all the displayed photos and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File. My testing indicates that WAV sidecars that weren't previously displayed in the Metadata panel will now be so displayed.  

 

4. In the Filter command, click Refresh to rerun the filter above. Verify that the counts for Associated File Types = "wav" matches the corresponding count for Sidecards.

 

5. If the counts still don't match, select Associated File Types = "wav", select all the displayed photos, and do Metadata > Read Metadata From File.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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@John R Ellis thanks for the reply.

 

I was using Assoc File Types but not Sidecars.

 

I backed up the catalog, reopened LR Classic, did the dual Sidecar ans Assoc File Types search. That produced 48 WAV files in Sidecars and 46 in Assoc F.Ts after doing the Metadata > Save Metadata. 

 

Then I did the Metadata > Read Metadata and refreshed the dual filters. Now there are a total of 80 WAV sidecar files and 80  assoc file type files. Screenshot attached.

 

I presume now the match is correct.  I don't understand what the filter is saying but I presume I've found all the WAV files.

 

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 Thanks for helping.

 

 

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