P: Duplication of keywords

[Björn Engelke]

Hallo,

Wenn ich ein Bild mit Lightroom (14.0.1) verbessere (KI Entrauschen) werden die im Original enthaltenen Stichwörter verdoppelt. D.h. es gibt dann einen zweites identisches Stichwort, was ja eigentlich nicht möglich sein sollte. Aufgefallen dadurch, dass nach einer Metadatensynchronisation mit anderen Bildern der komplette Pfad des Stichwortes im Stichwort Fenster angezeigt wurde (siehe Anhang). Extremst lästig ... vor allem wenn man eine komplexe und umfangreiche Stichwort sammlung hat. 

Nachtrag:
Ich tippe auf ein Problem mit Chars. Da in dem betroffenen Stichwort Buchstaben der Türkischen Sprache enthalten sind.
Und es betrifft aktionen bei denen ein zweiter Datensatz angelegt wird, egal ob externes Bearbeiten (Photoshop) oder Verbessern. Bei einer Virtuellen Kopie tritt der Fehler ebenfalls auf.
111. Filo Panterler < 1. Ana Jet Üs Komutanlığı < Turkish Air Force < Streitkräfte < Organisationen

[johnrellis]

The bug is with keywords containing a "." (it's unrelated to Turkish characters).  LR is incorrectly reading the keywords that are correctly written in the DNG's metadata, and it is interpreting the "." as the hierarchical separator.

To reproduce on LR 14.0.1 / Mac OS 14.6.1:

1. Select a raw and clear all keywords assigned to it.

2. Copy and paste this line into the Keywording panel:

B < 1. A

Observe that Keywording and Keyword List correctly contain:

3. Do Photo > Enhance > Denoise. 

4. Select the denoised DNG and observe that Keywording and Keyword List incorrectly contain:

* * *

A workaround:

1. Select the DNG.

2. In the Keywording box, clear all keywords assigned to the DNG. 

3. Do Metadata > Read Metadata From File, and the correct keywords will be assigned to the DNG.

4. Do Metadata > Purge Unused Keywords to remove all keywords that are no longer assigned to any photo.

[johnrellis]

@Rikk Flohr: Photography, please move to bugs (see my bug recipe above).

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Thanks, @johnrellis  & @Björn Engelke  for the posts and the reproduction instructions. I've logged a ticket with the team to investigate. 

[johnrellis]

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The problem occurs when importing any file containing XMP:HierarchicalSubject = "1. A|B". Simpler instructions for reproducing:

1. Import this JPEG:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kfx0gr1qb1xev7sokmfar/keyword-with-dot.2024-11-22.jpg?rlkey=efsl2qvp8... 

2. Select the photo and observe the Keywording and Keyword List panels show incorrect keywords:

2. Clear the Keywording panel.

3. Do Metadata > Read Metadata From File, and observe the Keywording and Keyword List panels now show correct keywords assigned to the photo:

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

@johnrellis  We are unable to reproduce this under Lightroom Classic 14.4. Do you still see this issue?

[johnrellis]

I initially couldn't reproduce the issue just now, with either LR 14.4 or 14.0.1. 

From backups, I restored the preferences .plist file from 11/23/24 (the day after the bug report), and the problem occurred with both 14.4 and 14.0.1.  

Given this issue occurred to two people at the time, and it doesn't occur now, it smells like something has changed in what LR is recording in preferences. I doubt the team will want to spend any more time on it, given the flawed preferences architecture, but just in case, here's that original preferences file from 11/23/24 causing the bug:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r1vd2ho8mke9uamidssqw/keyword-with-dot.2024-11-22-com.adobe.Lightroom... 

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

I did include your new information on the bug - we will see what the team chooses to do. 

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Moving back to discussions pending more information.