RAF from Fujifilm X-T5 not loading built-in lens profile (distortion/vignette) until zoomed to 100%

[PatinaPhoto]

Raw images from the X-T5 are not loading the built-in lens profile until the image is zoomed to 100%

This makes the images look heavily vignetted and distorted until the image is zoomed to 100%

Basic Steps to reproduce:

• Open image in develop module
• Image looks heavily vignetted and distorted
• Zoom image to 100%
• Image seems to reload, and the lens profile is applied.
• Zoom out --image now looks correct

Lightroom Classic Version: 12.1 build 202212072312-d7ab524b

OS Version: Windows 10 Home 19045.2364

Camera: Fujifilm X-T5

Lens: XF23mmF1.4 R LM WR (but also on other lenses as well)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Is it possible to share a raw file with us that exhibits the issue? 

[johnrellis]

Upload the sample raw file to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.  (You won't be able to attach a raw file here -- the forum platform chokes on raws.)

[PatinaPhoto]

Hello and sorry I missed these replies!

Thanks for looking into it. Here is a dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/t/386jV60YcPh3T19z

[GoldingD]

Are you creating the standard previews upon import?

[PatinaPhoto]

Yes. Rendering standard previews and smart previews on import

[johnrellis]

[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

Hmm, I don't observe that misbehavior in my LR 12.1 / Windows 10 with that file and with build standard previews and smart previews on import. There's something specific to your configuration that we don't yet know that's causing the problem.

1. Try importing a fresh photo without building smart previews -- does the problem still occur?

2. The "before" screenshot shows the Patina - Colour preset applied.  Did you apply this by clicking the preset or was it set by the Import setting Apply During Import > Develop?  If it was set by Import, does the problem occur if you import without setting a develop preset?

3. Immediately after importing a new photo but before zooming, make and post a screenshot of the Lens Correction panel, e.g.

[PatinaPhoto]

Thanks for experimenting!

I tried creating a new catalog, with a fresh import.
The lens profile seems like it loaded fine --you are right!
https://capture.dropbox.com/iHztlSWyg8So3n2W

So then I tried importing more images (since I sometimes notice the issue only when changing between images)
But it seems like they were also loading the lens profile fine.
Then I tried adding both my preset and created smart previews, and the problem appeared.
https://capture.dropbox.com/oweSvQKZXH2mcoMG

Now I need to dig a bit more and see if it is an issue with smart previews or our preset...

If you want to try as well;

Here are more X-T5 images to try: https://www.dropbox.com/t/zAPP6eVUacwtUFGU

[PatinaPhoto]

I tried testing if the problem is with the preset or smart previews;

• Removed the images and folder from lightroom
• Imported the images again (not preset or smart previews
• Scrolled through images - lens profile was loading, zooming 100% showed no change
• Applied our preset
• Scrolled through images - lens profile was loading, zooming 100% showed no change
• Switched to library and rendered smart previews
• Switched back to develop
• Scrolled through images - lens profile was NOT loading, zooming 100% showed big change in corners (vignetting)

https://capture.dropbox.com/YRGZdZtgssXMPf6v 

Looks like the problem is with smart previews (dng?) on X-T5 images.

This is a bummer though, since we work with an editor and working with smart previews is critical to our workflow.

[johnrellis]

[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

The screen recording gives another clue. When you first edit a photo, the Lens Correction panel says "Unable to load lens profile":

But after you zoom to 100%, it shows the correct profile being applied:

I'm not able to reproduce the problem just building smart previews -- I'm wondering if it's the combination of smart previews and that preset.  

Please attach the preset's .xmp file to your reply here. If we can get a precise recipe for reproducing the problem on a second computer, that will allow Adobe to file a bug report internally. If Adobe isn't able to reproduce the misbehavior, then they won't be able to solve the problem.

[PatinaPhoto]

Thanks for your help in trying to reproduce the issue @johnrellis!

Here is a download link for the preset we are using: https://www.dropbox.com/t/RJuMG5hdSfo4FKyW

[johnrellis]

With your preset and sample photos, I tried to do the steps exactly as shown in the screen recording, but I don't observe the misbehavior.   Unless Adobe can reproduce the problem, or many people report the symptoms, the product team won't look at the issue. And it will take many weeks or months at a minimum for a bug to get fixed. :-<

So I suggest you look for a workaround. Some ideas come to mind:

- Try resetting LR's preferences:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

LR sometimes soils its preferences file, and resetting it can fix all sorts of wonky behavior. That article explains how to restore the old preferences if resetting doesn't help.  Several years ago, I recall that resetting preferences helped with another issue with lens profiles in Develop.

- Try setting Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor to Off. If that helps, then update your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4

- Instead of using Auto Sync, apply the preset to the selected photos in Library Grid view, using the Saved Preset menu of the Quick Develop panel in the upper right.  Over the years, there have been obscure issues with Auto Sync, some of which have been fixed and some not..

- After applying the preset but before making the smart previews, do Library > Previews > Build 1:1 Previews. That will force 100% renderings of the selected photos.

[GoldingD]

Interesting, I have an X-T5, I have Windows, so I just got off my rear end to look at this.

(note, I have bairly touched this camera as of yet, but well experience with earlier Fiji X))

First interesting issue is that we are not forced to use built-in Lens Profile (correction) as for example on my X-T3:

LrC v12.1, Fujifilm X-T3 RAF

Instead, as requested by many many members, we get to select (auto in this case) the lens.

LrC v12.1 Fujifilm X-T5Zooming in to 100% changes nothing on my rig, my pic:

Personally I find this a desired behavior over Built-In Lens Correction applied

As for the Vignette/destination issue?

[deanw69410963]

I have the exact same issue with my XT-5 and 23mm LM WR. Somehow it seems like on my 33mm LM WR this problem does not appear. It seems to only affect my 23mm on X-T5. The bummer is that after zooming out the rest out of the photos revert back to the distorted versions. Incredibly tough to edit huge batches of files.

Did u mange to find a solution?