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Sony A7RV camera profiles

New Here ,
Apr 19, 2024 Apr 19, 2024

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The camera matching profiles for the A7RV couldn't be further from camera matching. I click them and suddenly people's skin turn red. My camera does not give red skin tones in the jpeg files it takes. Do these need looking at again? 

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Apr 20, 2024 Apr 20, 2024

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Camera matching profiles are a compromise, offered because of public demand.

 

These are entirely different raw processing engines. Trying to make one raw processor look exactly like another is basically impossible. That doesn't mean one is more "correct" or "better" than the other, just that they will always be slightly different.

 

You will always get better results by letting Lightroom use its own algoritms natively as they are intended to work.

 

I have that camera and I think Lightroom treats the files beautifully. But I have never used the camera matching profiles, for this reason.

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Apr 20, 2024 Apr 20, 2024

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Personally I don't like lightrooms rendering of the Sony files I think the colour is awful and lifeless straight out the gate that's why I wanted to try camera matching because seeing the straight out of camera JPEGs the colour was pretty good, Sony did a decent  job on this camera with colour science.

 

I have a a competitor program that I also use and that renders the Sony files so much nicer straight out the gate but Lightroom has its advantages in other ways for certain kinds of jobs.

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Apr 20, 2024 Apr 20, 2024

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For what it's worth, I took a bunch of random portrait shots and ran them through different camera matching profiles for the a7rV. They all looked...horrible. That's the only word for it. So no argument from me on that particular count.

 

But the thing is - they look terrific with the Adobe Color profile. So why would anyone use any other profile? I don't get it. Sure, there's always some tweaking to get it just right - but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. Skin tones are beautifully rendered  as long as it was shot in proper lighting.

 

Now, if you positively don't like the Lightroom rendering, then the only logical answer is to use a raw processor that you do like. I don't know what Sony offers, but it will match the camera jpeg because it's the same raw processing engine.

 

As for the Lightroom camera matching profiles, you get a good clue of why it doesn't look good if you just glance at the histogram. From the smooth rolling hills you suddenly get steep cliffs, gaps and saw-toothed ridges. It's pretty obvious that some really radical curves have been applied to make it look like something it isn't. That alone tells me to avoid them.

 

 

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Apr 20, 2024 Apr 20, 2024

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Sounds like some third party profiles are called for.

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Apr 20, 2024 Apr 20, 2024

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Sony software just can't handle a big batch of files and it's not very good to use. It's ok if you just want to tether the choices are really Lightroom or Capture One I have both and both have their merits and flaws really. 

Capture one definitely renders files to a much better standard it took 2 sliders and 2 ai masks to get the exact same look as it took an entire edit and a few masks to achieve in Lightroom.. But Lightroom just has some subtle quality of life features i really like.

ill give the adobe colour another go tomorrow. Maybe its just because im used to capture one not needing saturation boosts and curves etc that im struggling to get used to the desaturated look in Lightroom.

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Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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Well, there you go - we all have different preferences. If anything, I sometimes find Adobe Color slightly too saturated, especially for skin tones. 😉

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Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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One of those threads where screenshots and sample files would be good. It is entirely possible that Adobe made some mistakes in doing the camera matching profiles or used a preproduction version of the camera and Sony made changes to the sensor afterwards (it has happened before). Usually the camera matching profiles are quite good and close to the jpegs. In the past, Adobe has had to release updated camera matching profiles for some cameras where there was a big mismatch.

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Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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I will share some later on. 

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