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Hallo zusammen!
Seit Weihnachten hatte ich sporadisch Abbrüche in Lightroom, meist, wenn ich meinen NAS Server synchen wollte. Oder Bilder exportieren.
Seit dem Frühjahr passierte das auch, wenn ich nur Bilder auf der Festplatte auswählte.
Ein neuer Katalog brachte keine Änderung.
Die LR Dateien von D auf C zu verlagern brachte keine Änderung.
Nun auf einer beruflichen Reise wurde das immer extremer.
Lightroom öffnen führte meist dazu, dass ein Ordner, ein Bild geöffnet wurde.
Sowie ich ein anderes Bild anklickte, oder den Ordner wechselte: Abbruch.
Einfach LR öffnen und erst einmal warten: Abbruch.
Nach dem vierten, fünften Neustart klappte es dann manchmal einige Zeit.
Import (von 100 bis über 10.000 Bilder pro Tag) wurde zum Glückspiel.
Waren alle Bilder importiert und verschoben kam regelmäßig der Abbruch, wenn LR die Meldung brachte "Bilder nicht in DNG Format" importiert. Abbruch
Oft auch schon vorher während dem Import.
Den Rechner in den Turbo-Modus zu versetzen brachte temporär Linderung,
Zuletzt hatte ich das Gefühl, am längsten hielt LR durch, wenn ich das Notebook nicht am Netzstrom und im Energiesparmodus halte (Dann dauert natürlich der Import und die Bearbeitung ewig) Führte aber dann doch immer wieder zu Abbrüchen.
Kein Abbruch war reproduzierbar!
Als kein: Wenn ich das Klicke, dann.
Häufig einfach beim Anklicken des nächsten Bildes in der Übersicht (G)
Speicher getestet ohne Fehler
Festplatte getestet ohne Fehler
Windows komplett neu installiert,
Lightroom komplett neu installiert
NVIDA Treiber auf den allerneusten Stand gebracht
Neuer Lightroom Katalog - ohne irgendwelche Plugs oder Einstellung
Grafikkarte in LR deaktiviert
HAGS deaktiviert
Nichts davon hat einen Einfluss.
Dazu kommen dann immer mal auch BlueScreens.
Arbeite ich mit Davinci an einem Film starte rechenintensive Exporte, klappt das ohne Fehler.
Das Ganze ist mir ein Rätsel. Ich arbeite mit LR seit der Version 1, aber so kann ich nicht mehr mit LR arbeiten.
Im Anhang noch ein Crash Report
Daten zum Notebook:
Predator Helios 18 Gaming-Notebook | PH18-72
Intel® Core™ i9-14900HX Prozessor Tetracosa-Core (24 Core™) 2,20 GHz
32 GB, DDR5 SDRAM
2 TB SSD
Hat noch jemand eine Idee?
Dem Support von Acer konnte ich das Problem kaum erklären und natürlich kam die Aussage: Liegt an Lightroom.
Danke und Gruß
Jürgen
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Hier noch der Crash Report
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Lots of internet advice about blue screens, such as
https://www.solveyourtech.com/how-to-fix-blue-screen-windows-11-a-step-by-step-guide/
Blue screens often occur due to faulty hardware, outdated drivers, or system corruption. Checking these areas can usually resolve the issue.
Note that software (including Lightroom Classic and any other software) is not considered as a possible cause of blue screens. Note that the possible causes fit in with your description of the problem. The author of this advice has no connection to Adobe and probably is not a Lightroom Classic user, so has no bias for or against Adobe software.
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Building on that, another cause of computer crashes is overheating due to a faulty cooling system, e.g. fans that aren't spinning or fan vents that are clogged. You can download a free CPU temperature utility to monitor the temperature of your CPU/GPU as you use LR (which uses a lot of power and generates a lot of heat).
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Das hat sicherlich etwas damit zu tun, denn beim Start und auch während des Arbeitens geht die Temperatur auf 98 Grad hoch. Demnach wäre es ein Hardwareproblem.
Kann man irgendwo in Lightroom die Leistung beeinflussen?
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Kann man irgendwo in Lightroom die Leistung beeinflussen?
By @jürgenr21171027
No.
Where is the temperature at 98°, CPU or GPU?
It seems that you have a problem with the cooling of your CPU/GPU. Please check the fans in the case if they are working correctly. Check also that the cooling circuit and air circulation works perfectly. Also check the temperature control and its settings if everything is working properly.
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Es ist die CPU und es ist ja ein Gaming PC mit sehr viel Power und Temperaturmanagement.
Die Lüfter drehen auch hoch,
Es bricht auch nicht immer ab, wenn die Temperatur hoch ist, sondern fast immer beim Start und beim Import erst wenn die Meldung mit den RAW Dateien erfolgt.
Und dann manchmal einfach mittendrin, beim Wechseln von einem Bild zum nächsten.
Die Temperatur ist jetzt für mich nur ein erstes Indiz.
ALLE (!) Treiber sind aktualisiert und auf dem neusten Stand.
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High temperatures indicate that the cooling system is doing a lot of work, and possibly some element of the cooling system has stopped working. The fact that it is a gaming PC with lots of power and temperature management doesn't help if some part of the cooling system has stopped working.
Check to make sure all fans are spinning, and the case is not clogged with dust and the vents are free of dust and the vents are not blocked by furniture or a wall or something else.
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Es ist die CPU und es ist ja ein Gaming PC mit sehr viel Power und Temperaturmanagement.
By @jürgenr21171027
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Even if it's a gaming PC with a lot of power, 98° is too much, especially if the hardware isn't particularly demanding.
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Die Temperatur ist jetzt für mich nur ein erstes Indiz....
By @jürgenr21171027
But it is very important to check what's responsible for the high temparture.
If in your crash report that's a CPU internal GPU is active and this with an approx. two years old driver.
The CPU internal GPU is sometimes responsible for one or the other problem. So I would try to deactive the internal GPU using the Device Manager on Windows. In the Device Manager, right-click the card's name and choose Disable.
Please also provide a copy of your 'System Info'. This can be get from the LrC Help > System Info menu item. There's a copy button in the System Info dialog. Press this button and paste the info into your next forum post.
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Additional comment:
As the OP seems to be writing in some European language, I would imagine that he means the 98 degrees is actually 98°C.
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