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Hi. After a long time digging through multiple forums, I’m laying out all my problems with Lightroom Classic, which I see are only getting worse. Obviously, if you can help me with any of them, great, but this is more of a post to flag things in the hope that someone at Adobe reads it, because in my opinion Lightroom needs a thorough overhaul. The app is becoming very hard to use, and the system requirements for a photo app are sometimes unreasonable.
My relationship with Lightroom has always been love–hate, but these days it almost always leans toward hate. I’m increasingly burned out and wish there were more alternatives on the market to make Adobe step up.
I’ll start at the beginning.
Overall—and this has always been the underlying problem with Lightroom—it’s incredibly slow. I’ve noticed this forever, but lately it’s becoming unbearable. My current laptop is a Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i Gen 9 with an Intel Ultra 9 185H and an NVIDIA RTX 4070 (laptop) with 8 GB of VRAM. SSD of course, with the catalog on the SSD, and 64 GB of RAM. In short, a good laptop. I bought this computer to make up for Lightroom’s slowness on my previous five-year-old desktop and, well, yes, it got a bit better, but nothing dramatic. Lightroom remained sluggish the longer you used it and it gobbled up RAM and VRAM. And once you start using the new AI features, add a brush or two, forget it. RAM usage shoots up and everything slows to a crawl. I have to close and reopen it. The same thing happens when creating HDR panoramas—the program gets bogged down. And it doesn’t matter what I do, what I toggle on or off—it always happens.
And now for the little glitches.
I started the year with a catalog corruption where the Export menu suddenly stopped appearing. I’d click Export and the export window would never show up. After lots of back-and-forth with Adobe techs—with none of them having any idea what was going on—the only way we could fix it was by rolling back to a previous backup. There the option showed up again, and the conclusion was “corrupt catalog.” OK.
On top of that, photo imports have been failing for quite some time. Every time I imported a batch of photos applying a name, keywords, and metadata, the only thing it actually did was rename. It didn’t apply the keywords or metadata, and to get them applied I had to restart after the import. No update has fixed this, and it still happens.
Now there’s a new error during import. I’ve always imported and converted to DNG in the same process. Well, now you can’t convert to DNG anymore. Starting around photo 50, Lightroom starts eating RAM like there’s no tomorrow and converts veeeery slowly, sometimes even producing corrupted conversions. I end up stopping the conversion, restarting Lightroom, and applying the DNG conversion from the Library menu. But the whole thing becomes drawn-out and clunky, and I always have to import a lot of photos to begin with.
I no longer know what’s going on. I don’t know if my catalog is just too heavy (300,000 photos) and I need to do something about it—even though lots of people on this forum say the size of the catalog doesn’t matter—or if there’s something corrupted in the catalog. But more and more things keep breaking and I can’t work efficiently.
Right now I was about to buy a desktop and thought maybe a Mac Studio would solve my problems (people rave about it), but I’m afraid that won’t be the case and that this is a deeper issue.
In short, if any of this resonates with you, I’ll be happy to hear from you.
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Am having the same problem since upgrade to W11, where is a solution? Am pissed, need to work with Lightroom.
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Hey, @juancalagares. Welcome to the Lightroom Community. Thanks for the detailed post.
I understand it must be tough at times. Lightroom's performance isn't just calculated by specs = performance. It is one crucial aspect, but not an all-encompassing factor.
Please give the content here to see if there are any optimizations that you can apply, realistically, based on your workflow and needs: https://adobe.ly/43mqtye;
Also, the laptops are by default built to be efficient and are sometimes held back by factors such as the power state (charging or discharging), performance profiles, etc. Please check if troubleshooting the dual Graphics processor on your machine helps: https://adobe.ly/4ocXt4g
Let me know how it goes.
Thanks!
Sameer K
(Type '@' and type my name to mention me when you reply)
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Hi @Sameer K . I’ve been using Lightroom for 12 years, and I feel like it’s getting worse. I consider myself an advanced user. Features get improved—now there’s AI and all that. The price goes up, of course. But I think it needs a major overhaul. I’m running into more and more ‘weird’ problems. I appreciate your comment, but I don’t think it really helps solve much. I see a widespread issue that I notice in many forum posts, but it always ends up without a solution or with the usual line: ‘well, Lightroom is a heavy program…’
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I appreciate your frustration. Your reply didn't say whethere you tried the suggestions in the linked articles. Did you actually try any of them?
As for your question about getting a desktop computer, I built a new Win11 computer last spring. See the specs in my signature. That machine runs lightroom classic very well. I have no complaints about any of the modules performance. My catalog is about 200,000 images. I also use MacBook pro for travel. Unless you have previous Mac experience, I don't recommend switching operating systems.
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Hello. Of course, I've reviewed the articles and tried all the solutions. They're just a list of general solutions to solve general and typical Lightroom problems. The ones that appear on every website and forum. Honestly, I've spent a lot of time, much more than I'd like, researching Lightroom's damn slowness, regardless of the equipment I've ever owned. I don't know if it's Lightroom or my catalog, but after so much searching, I've discovered I'm not alone in this and there are too many users reporting the same thing. And of course, the bugs I mentioned... They're appearing little by little.
Thanks for the recommendation about your equipment, although I've taken a look and we're not so far gone that my Lightroom is a disaster and yours is working great.
All I'm thinking is that in the next version, they'll stop releasing AI and raise the price for it and actually fix the Lightroom problem.
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Hi @Kerstin375329204nkc. Honestly, I don’t know where the solution is. But for me, Lightroom never gets better—it only gets worse.
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I'm still doing my thing, amazed by this software. As I continue trying to get this blessed program to work as it should, today I decided to export my catalog in parts and import them again, one by one, into a new catalog. After importing the first batch, of course, Lightroom became unusable. Heavy, stuck, consuming RAM. The best part is what's shown in the screenshot. Once I closed the program, it was consuming 37 gigabytes of RAM. After closing it, the consumption continued to rise, reaching 47. And now little by little, after 10-15 minutes, Lightroom will free up RAM at its own pace. Once I've freed it up completely, I'll be able to open the program again. Yes, I could force the task to end, but it's just mind-blowing.
'm particularly frustrated to see that in every Adobe Community Forum where these topics are discussed, people come in saying their Lightroom is like butter. Honestly, I find it hard to believe. Either you're using it very lightly; or you have few photos; or your files are very small. I've read so much about Lightroom's problems that I find it hard to believe it's just a few unfortunate people. But I get here and I hit a wall. And it's exactly the same with Adobe's service. Seriously, Lightroom is devouring fabulous computers, and I think Adobe should take notice.
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Just close the subscription, and find 12.x or 13.1 version and never update again
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You've made me think, because when I built my first desktop for Lr, back in 2017, the software worked well and was stable. There were some occasional slowdowns, but it took me a long time to realize I needed to update. However, now that I've done it with a modern computer, which I consider to be on par with what that PC was in 2017, I see that I've improved practically nothing and that I'm also experiencing bugs (the ones I mentioned) and new, more serious slowdowns.
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I can understand your frustration, but...
I am one of the users who runs Lightroom smoothly and without any problems. With a size of 40-60MB my RAW files are not exactly small and I manage approx. 80k images in my catalog. I see some slowness if I using a lot of masks for local adjustments in the development section. But I can live with this.
Please give us more info about your system. Please provide a copy of your 'System Info'. This can be get from the LrC Help > System Info menu item. There's a copy button in the System Info dialog. Press this button and paste the info into your next forum post.
Standard question for such problems: Is your system up-to-date? Do you have installed all recent updates and patches for the operating system and the device drivers, especially the graphic driver. If you have a NVidia graphic card installed, make sure that you are using the recent Studio version of the driver, not the Game Ready version.
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...Adaptador #2: Proveedor : 8086Dispositivo : 7d55
By @juancalagares
You've buildin a CPU with an integrated GPU. In your case it's a Intel® Arc™ Graphics.
The internal GPU can sometimes caused several issues. Make sure that it is disabled.
Go to Control panel > Device manager > Display adapters, right click the Intel® Arc™ Graphics, and choose "Disable device".
Make also sure the you're using the recent Studio version for your NVidia card.
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And what can I do with the external display? It's driven by the Intel Arc graphics.
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Why do you say that? I would be surprised if that is true. Is that something in the manual or specs of the computer? Does disabling the Arc graphics kill the signal to the external monitor.
What type of interface is the external monitor using?
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I don't know if it will cut off the signal once deactivated or if it will be directly managed by the dGPU. What I can tell you is that while Intel Arc is active, it manages both the laptop monitor and the EIZO external monitor. I looked it up, and it seems to be quite common; Intel Arc manages the displays, and the dGPU manages the applications. On a desktop, where there's a direct connection to the dGPU, it's a different story.
Anyway, I don't understand why you have to go through this with Lr; this is a reality on many computers.
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Did you actually try disabling the Arc Gpu in the BIOS and Windows? Your screen shot doesn't mean much if both GPUs are active.
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Did you deactivate the internal GPU? The screenshot shows only that Lightroom is active for the RTX for the moment. If the internal GPU is still active it's possible that LR is using it for some functions.
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I agree with you that after a certain version (perhaps the one you're talking about), everything started to get worse, even if you had a good computer. And I agree that's when AI started to come into play. Lightroom worked reasonably well for me on a computer that lasted almost 7 years. New versions started, and everything went down the drain. Problems with my catalog and slowdowns depending on which tools I used. And the price, of course, was higher. Oh! And I don't know if it had anything to do with it, but it also coincided with the launch of the Apple M1, Apple's miracle. Suddenly, everything was fantastic there, and you end up wondering if that's the way to go... Coincidence?
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